take your god and shove him

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by sheik-yerbouti, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er

    [ame= - Take your god and shove him[/ame]
     
  2. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    He's says he's heard it a thousand times before. How do we know that? I mean who dose he think we are, God?
     
  3. Fullauto

    Fullauto Big Time BS'er

    He'll never take a single vote in the Bible Belt!
     
  4. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I know this isn't the right Christian way but I find myself praying when I'm sick or someone has died. I'm not afraid to tell you people that I'm scared to death about death. I don't wanna die. I don't want to be reminded about death everyday and thats what religion dose to me.
     
  5. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er


    I understand Snaf. You get something out of it at a personal level, and thats OK.

    My gripe are the people who pound on my door with their god crap. And also those poisoning little minds with it. Also the prejudice atheists are subjected to by these people.

    Well, if they are going to chase me in here, with their rubbish, lets rumble !

    I'll probably calm down in a few months. But I'll be raving for a bit yet ..
     
  6. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Yeah I don't like people knocking on my door preaching becuse I don't want to think about it. But there are people out the that are looking for something and they find it when that knock comes.
     
  7. Fullauto

    Fullauto Big Time BS'er

    I used to be a fire and brimstone atheist... I've come to terms with religion since I've grown older and have had some new experiences... I've gotten over the 'look down my nose' faze that all new/insecure atheist tend to go through, and now I first look to understand, then look to be understood...

    I get along much better with religious people now...
     
  8. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
    I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
    And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
    Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981)

    Barry Goldwater
     
  9. Fullauto

    Fullauto Big Time BS'er

    He really was one of the greatest
     
  10. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    We had our chance in '64. We have been spiraling downward ever since.
     
  11. Fullauto

    Fullauto Big Time BS'er

    I'm pretty sure the 60's will prove ultimately to be this country's undoing...

    Sux... what a shame... It writes like a Shakespearean tragedy...
     
  12. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I found another good time to pray. When someone you love is hurt. Now I'm not the kind of person that really believes in miracles. I mean if god could cure people we wouldn?t have disparity at all here on earth. Well at least not for the faithful. But I find it comforting in praying when I have absolutely no other recourse. Strangely it dose give me comfort if not for the suffering.

    My cousin?s husband and daughter were in a car crash this weekend. What the paper fails to tell you is that my second cousin was pregnant and she lost her child in this crash. I don?t think she knows it now because she still isn?t conscious.



    Head-on crash injures seven: Mat-Su | adn.com
     
  13. eddo

    eddo I don't like you.

    Why not?? Where does God promise the believer an earthy life free from pain, struggle, or anything that the non-believer won't have to deal with on earth?

    The difference is that God does promise not to leave us during those struggles, and He promises to help us through them.



    and I will be praying for your cousin, her hubby, and their daughter, Snaf. Sorry to hear about the baby. :(
     
  14. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    So sorry to hear that snaf..
     
  15. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Kaier Marie - unborn for 8 months. She would've seen the world for the first time next month.
     
  16. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er

    I'm thinking of you and yours Snaf
     
  17. RoyalOrleans

    RoyalOrleans I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For

    Wow...

    I am terribly sorry to hear all this, Snafu.

    I recall a quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln upon witnessing his youngest boy's death, William Wallace Lincoln 1850-1862:

    "My poor boy. He was too good for this earth. God has called him home. I know that he is much better off in heaven, but then we loved him so. It is hard, hard to have him die!"

    Semper fi.
     
  18. emkay64

    emkay64 Big Time BS

  19. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Oh man I'm sorry to hear that. 32 is pretty young. I'm sure he new the risks but that dosn't make it any easier.
     
  20. emkay64

    emkay64 Big Time BS

    He's married with two small kids. It is his passion. He new the risks. A couple years ago he broke his back and was back on the circuit in 6 mos. I think with guys like that, it's all they know. Pretty sad nonetheless.
     

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