Told you so...

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Midas, May 22, 2007.

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  1. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    The word cancer does project fear better than the word animals. Good substitute.
     
  2. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Cancer is an accurate description for if you don't treat/kill it...it destroys the "body".

    But go ahead and criticize what descriptions I use for the enemy of the free world and go ahead and ignore what and why we must fight this islamic cancer that in its own doctrine and texts will NEVER be a peace with the non-muslim and "not-muslim-enough" world.
     
  3. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    911 is largely ignored. Don't get your panties in a knot..It's just the American way. :cool:
     
  4. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Wait for it...

    The young man, who yesterday night on Christmas attempted to ignite an explosive device aboard a Delta Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, Michigan in the United States has been identified as Abdul Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab...wait for it...wait for it...a devout Muslim!

    - - Just like the terrorist/pedophile prophet who founded this religion.

    - - Just like the 100's of passages found in the koran that instructs "true" muslims to conduct war and hate on all infidels

    - - Just like the 1,300 year history of this cancer

    Told you so!
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Hey, just because he had an explosive device on a plane doesn't make him a terrorist, right tom?
     
  6. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I read on the internet that Barbara Bush is the one who sewed the explosives in the guy's underwear. I knew there had to be a connection to Bush.
     
  7. Midas

    Midas New Member

    BTW...99% of the news organizations are falling over themselves trying their hardest not to report and use the "M"-word when describing this islamic animal. Not me! Abdulmutallab is a devout MUSLIM and yes...when you are a devout and "true" MUSLIM...sh*t happens!

    Another tidbit...Abdulmutallab was on a (islamic) terrorism watch list...but not on a no-fly list.

    So once again most likely due to political correctness, we have our government, as in the case of the Fort Hood MUSLIM terrorist attacks, knowing about someone, knowing that they were suspicious, but that information didn't get to the right people.

    Told you so!
     
  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The interesting thing which of course drives Midas-the-Muslim-Hater crazy is that the person that alerted the FBI to this guy was his own father! You know Midas, one of those Muslim animals you keep referring to. The enire nation of Nigeria as reported in their own papers is said to be ashamed of this guy. More Muslim animals that deserve your stereotyping and hatred, eh Midas?
     
  9. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Amazing isn't it? The guy was an "elite" with the best schooling yet he turned radical. His own father alerted authtories about him. Kind of makes you wonder doesn't it?

    Your turn MIdas. Tell us how/why his father is an animal (other than being a Muslim)? Without pictures if you can possibly manage it.
     
  10. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Easy...those that follow "true" islam the way the terrorist/pedophile prophet mohammad founded are indeed animals...or better put, a "cancer" that MUST be dealt with. If you leave a cancer unintended without addressing it, the "cancer" will spread and destroy the body. So whether you wish to call our islamic enemies a "cancer" or "animals" (which is how many allied soldiers labeled Nazis during World War II), I say if the shoe fits...but go ahead and argue with how I define our enemies while ignoring more important matters.

    Yes, many muslim/terrorist apologists in this forum will say that it is a few bad apples who don't represent the whole. Fair enough, that may be a valid argument, but how do we put this to the test?

    Ask yourself: What about all of the islamic terrorists claiming that "moderate" or "not-muslim-enough" muslims are not really muslims and denounce their cowardice? How do we know which faction represents islam most closely? Who are the "true" muslims?

    Ask yourself another question...aren't those that follow the life and example of their founding prophet simply being "true" muslims because their prophet muhammad himself in fact spread his faith by warfare and terrorism?

    Ask yourself, doesn't the word "islam" itself mean that one will obtain "peace" IF (and this is a huge "IF") one "submits and surrenders" to THEIR way and rule of life??...otherwise, all bets are off?

    As for the father that squealed to the FBI about his son, you can bet that this MUSLIM terrorist's father is now an apostrate and the punishment for apostasy is what we come to expect from the religion of islam. That’s because islam teaches that apostates are to be killed. Go ahead and look it up yourself. I know from historic islamic documents that during muhammad's lifetime, and the lifetimes of the next four "Rightly Guided Caliphs", tens of 1000's of muslims left the faith of islam and you guessed it...1000's were then killed.

    Now, on a large scale, muslims made war on groups that chose to leave islam and massacres of apostates occurred. On a smaller scale individual apostates were executed. Why do you think that runaway 17 year old girl from Ohio is scared for her life after leaving islam? The death sentence is in effect whether or not the apostasy occurred in or out of the islamic state. So guess what? This "not-muslim-enough" father is now going to have to deal with "true" muslims that are now going to go after his head...literally. You don't think he is watching his back?

    The fact of the matter is that many muslims living in islamic dominated countries have no problem with the rule of putting apostates to death. On the other hand, muslims living in the West are embarrassed by this death sentence. No surprise...we in the west value the freedoms of thought and speech while islam does not, and you have to admit, these common day virtues have never blossomed, and will NEVER blossom under islamic rule or in any islamic dominated country.

    You must also examine common islamic source materials (like I have) that reinforce my arguments. Please...I implore you...Look at the koran, hadith, and Sura. You must examine not only muhammad’s words, but his deeds, and the deeds of those who knew, loved, and obeyed him.

    What exactly was the law during muhammad's and the caliph's time?

    What did the great scholars of islam teach on this issue?

    Yes...it is left to the muslims to define their doctrines. But once defined we should understand them for they affect our lives BY THEIR ACTIONS!!

    Note then, that for some 1,400 years the defined sentence for apostasy was execution. Few muslim scholars today have ever challenged this definition; the overwhelming majority of islamic scholars support this madness.

    Face it...apostrates and traitors of islam are dealt harshly under islamic madness and you can bet that those that follow "true" islam as muhammad founded are going to deal with this apostrate no differantly than those islamic apostrates over the last 1,400 years.

    I have addressed this before with dealing with infidels and "not-muslim-enough" muslims. True islam has no place for these people.
     
  11. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Nope..no more than humans having a brain located between their ears makes them more intelligent or less ignorant than those animals Midas is always talking about.
     
  12. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Your usual mantra followed by blanket statements about Islam and Muslims in general. How dumb do you take the rest of for? I know that you have probably justified your hatred of all things Muslim with this silly rationalization because I have seen you do it over and over but if you think the rest of us buy into this nonsense, you are only kidding yourself. Something you seem particularly good at.
     
  13. Midas

    Midas New Member

    All I ask is that you take a step back and be honest with yourself...

    Any objective person would and should question if there something inherently violent about a faith for this to happen on a virtually daily basis. Now...if Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus, or any other religion were committing these types of atrocities with such frequency - while invoking the name of religion - any objective and rational person would likewise call them into question too!! I would and I hope you would too!

    But is that the case? Why does it always seem to be in the name of Islam and not any other religion? Why is it that 99% of all terrorist attacks and killings all have islam at its core? Isn't okay to question where are these terrorists getting these ideas from?

    I asked those questions over the years and the answers upset many muslim apologists. If you follow the life and deeds of muhammad who himself was a murderer and terrorist, sh*t is and will happen. The actions of those that follow islam as this so-called prophet intended are in FACT a declaration of war against everything non-muslim...and of course, "not-muslim-enough" people. I would applaud any "not-muslim-enough" muslim to denouce all of the hate, all of the wife beating instructions, and all of the intolerance found in their texts but they don't...hence, they perpetuate this madness and only get upset when somebody draws an editorial cartoon about their prophet in a newspaper.

    I know it is not politically correct to ask and comment about a violent religion...but the facts and ACTIONS of those that follow "true" islam with all of its hate and fighting described in their texts should speak for themselves. WE see islamic terrorist attack almost EVERY day and why isn't it that we in the west are afraid to call a spade a spade??

    I guess political correctness doesn't allow us to be honest with ourselves...at least for most people.

    :( :(
     
  14. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Thats not true and you know it. Everyone is calling him a muslim. You have got to be the biggest exaggertating person in here. Even bigger than me. The guy was on the no fly list. Yep thats true. But he took off from Amsterdam right? Should the U.S. now run Amsterdam? The Ft. Hood guy was a commisioned officer way before Obama was President. Why didnt the previous administration kick him out of the military?
     
  15. Midas

    Midas New Member

    [​IMG]

    I guess it was a tough day for this devout Muslim, who intended on killing 288 airline passengers in the name of Allah, but wound up grilling his own genitals instead.

    [At least the 72 virgins in allah's paradise were spared disappointment]

    :p
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    As for the father that squealed to the FBI about his son,

    What a way to discribe someone who turned in there own son!! A Squealer!! My god man you should be utterly ashamed of yourself, do you honestly expect any Muslim who wishes to help us to come forward with info on possible attacks when people like you refer to them as SQUEALERS what next RAT'S or FINKS :eek:
    Muslims cant win with you can they Midas, no matter what they do it's wrong you just hate pure and simple
     
  17. Midas

    Midas New Member

    You don't think that those that follow "true" islam has this terrorist's father labeled as an apostrate?? You don't think a fatwa is now issued on him??

    As an infidel, I am glad he is "not-muslim-enough", but until the "not-muslim-enough" muslims stand up and deal with the cancer gripping this religion, can you really trust these people??

    Think about it...unless somebody draws an editorial cartoon about muhammad, where is the outrage?

    Don't give me some CNN lip service that proclaims islam is about "peace" when proof shows that it is not...where are the ACTIONS!!

    Oh wait...the actions come from those that are "true" muslims who define this religion for what it is!
     
  18. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Breaking News:

    4 condom-bomber conspirators were GITMO grads

    By Eeyore | December 28, 2009 - From Chicago Breaking News

    Men believed behind airplane plot were freed from Gitmo. Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November, 2007, ABC News is reporting, quoting American officials and citing Department of Defense documents.

    American officials agreed to send the two terrorists to Saudi Arabia where they entered into an “art therapy rehabilitation program” and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials, ABC News reported.

    [Do you really think that "true" muslims can be reahabilated?]

    Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.

    Al-Harbi has since changed his name to Muhamad al-Awfi.

    [a better suited islamic terrorist name]

    Told you so!
     
  19. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    What has any of that tripe got to do with your discription of the Father and I will repeat it here again for you in case you cant read your own scrawl

    SQUEALER


    Now try answering the question instead of comming out with more of your BS what sort of thing is that to call a man who turns in his own son his actions might well have saved western lives How would you feel if he had saved your SON or DAUGHTER But no of course not a single word of praise for such a brave person who by your own words has possibly sentenced himself to death to help PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HATE HIM
     
  20. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Well...if you followed islam the way muhammad intended and turned on your fellow muslims who are conducting jihad...yes...a "squealer" or "rat" would be the term used by fellow "true" muslims as a description of the apostrate that blew the whistle of his fellow muslim...son or not!

    Look...I have no problem with "not-muslim-enough" muslims turning in and helping us infidels but you don't think that "true" muslims are not upset about this muslim turning on his own son?

    Don't you think a "fatwa" will be issued on this apostrate?

    I applaud him...but I would bet the "true" muslims out there are NOT happy with him.

    Anyways...go ahead and get all upset on what term(s) I used...never mind the former Gitmo muslims animals that were released to conduct jihad...again along with about 25 muslim animals in YOUR OWN country that are planning to kill in the name of allah on airline flights!!

    Told you so!
     
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