Told you so...

Aww man. Smokescreen? That could be construed as a conspiracy. The American people have neither the wit nor the time for such nonsense with American Idol getting ready to start and all! Logic? Logic is whatever the government tells them it is, which is whatever the corporations tell them that it is, which is whatever nets the top dogs the most cash.
Peace and harmony? Nope. Can't do it. That would cost more than 27 cents...not in the corporate budget.

 

Muslims are told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (koran 4:48 and 4:116).

Thank you Clembo. Think about it. If a "true" Muslim commits the ultimate sin of thinking and questioning the beliefs that was imposed on them, they are then considered apostrates. Again...I applaud those that can finally see what Islam is all about and yes, even for a father to swallow his pride and turn on his own son. We see him as "hero" in the West, but you can bet my last dollar that he is now viewed as an apostrate in the islamic world.

Face it...we in the West have the luxury to debate this religion and when you look at the evidence, you can see that Islam is a hoax...it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.

Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism and the MOTIVE for this madness.

I really beleive that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated.

Fortunately, we in the West have freedom of the press (and mind) to openly discuss this madness...something you will never find in an islamic country.

 

You're welcome.

Now how does one go about eliminating an idealogy and if/when that happens how do we get rid of the next?

 

I have on a number of occassions asked Midas if he advocated Genocide but to date he realy has not been very forthcoming in his response, nor has he come up with any alternative method of removing Islam
Lots of pontification but no substance

 

Well thats the thing. He alludes to genocide. He skirts around the word. This way he cant be called on it. When I read his tirade about centuries of lies, deceit, brutality and slavery; I thought he was talking about Christianity. Doesnt that religion forgive all sins of a repentant man except disbelief?

 

What is the deal with that guy? I don't think I've heard of anybody that seems to enjoy war since the shotgun Dick and his monkey.

 

First of all...those of us that are not pounding our head to the ground 5 times per day must, at the very minimim, conclude that Islam is a blood-drenched idealogy, and we need to expose it as an existential threat to the West.

With that, we must not allow ourselves to be intimidated by the Muslim faithful.

Unfortuantely, the fact of the matter is the WEST IS INTIMATED by this idealogy. For example, very few Western newspapers reprinted the cartoons of the Danish artist, to show solidarity and support for the principle of free speech. Our infidel newspapers should at least protested the attempted assassination of the Danish cartoonist by reprinting his infamous editorial cartoon, but they were too afraid and intiminated by the millions that took to the streets because of Islam and all of its evil.

Now...The fascist Islamic countries have forced the United Nations into adopting a binding international covenant against the "defamation of religions". This insidious covenant is a not very well disguised attempt and will unfortunately try to bring to the West the oppressive and undemocratic blasphemy laws found in most Muslim countries.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE52P60220090326

Can any person prove me otherwise? In a Muslim country my head would be chopped off for writing this post. Since this convenant is adopted by the UN, I could be jailed here in America for stating the obvious: Islam is an abomination that treats women like cattle, and regards practitioners of other religions like infidel dogs.

I don`t believe in any sacred cows, and religion shouldn`t be exempt from criticism. Yes...I even applaud those for blasting the intolerance of Christian fundamentalists when the shoe fits, but I`m appalled by their cowardice for failing to criticize the more serious threat of Islam.

I am appalled by so-called women's group that will without thinking criticize Sarah Palin when they turn a blind eye to wife beating which is allowed in the islamic faith.

First step...publically acknowleding that islam is a hateful idealogy by us in the West and that this religion has NEVER been about peace. A "peace" that muslim advocates HAVE TO KEEP ON REMINDING US ABOUT when their actions are completely the opposite.

 

Simple question midas what is your solution??

No ranting or rhetoric just a solution to the problem, lets see if you can honestly answer the question

 

First step as above...I thought it was well thought out and answered based on history, fact, and current actions of this warped idealogy.

You have to FIRST call out islam for what it is. The battle going on in the free arena of ideals (something you will NEVER see in an islamic country) and until the infidel world can "call a duck a duck", the cancer will continue and spread.

 

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The solution is diplomacy where possible, bullets where necessary. That is exactly how this country has changed enemies into allies for centuries. Sorry if that isn't macho enough for you. Its just the way it is.

 

No. Thats pretty macho. But T.R. is dead. And that solution was exactly what the Japanese came to when the US kept dragging ass. And that didnt turn out well for anyone. And who says when bullets are necessary? Who gets to say, ''Enough talk. Lets start killing.''? As long as youre talking, no one is dying. But I guess its easier to hate someone than it is to understand them. Its easier to shoot somebody than it is to come to an agreement.

 

Also much more profitable. Especially if you own the right stock.

 

Funny...USA Today had an article on Monday written by a "moderate" muslim answering the question, "Where are all of 'moderate' muslims?"

He went on to tell us that islam is a "religion of peace". If you think about it, only in the ideaogy of islam is it necesssary remind all that islam is a religion of "peace". Do the Jews do it? Do the Christians do it? Only in islam!

 

Now I know we probablly wouldn't see an article like this in an Iranian magazine for example but what if we did? What would a Jew or Chrisian have to say?
Would it be "Muslims are war mongers and we should destroy them?" OR would it be more like "we are a religion of peace?" I'm thinking it would be the latter.

So I'll quote myeself here Midas. I can see what you believe although I don't agree with it.

My real point here is that IF/WHEN you were to eliminate an idealogy another would just replace it. Get rid of Islam and open the door for the "new" Spanish inquistion for example.
While one is destroyed another grows and lies in wait.

Human nature unfortunately and fueled by religion.

 

You mean we haven't bombed 'em all to hell and back yet? Saving some of them to man the oil fields I suppose. Damn animal brown people.

 

Tomc, If you believe we have so much control over the Middle East oilfields, why are we paying so much for their oil? We seem to be at OPEC's mercy as far as oil prices & supply go. Can you explain your comment a little further?

 

I beleive we are damn sure fortunate to actually have the freedom and liberty to debate this topic. When USA Today printed the followin article:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/01/column-moderate-muslims-were-everywhere-.html

They basically mentioned there are more "moderate" muslims (or "not muslim enough") than fundamental muslms. Well...if you think about it, this article is admitting that IF you follow islam like their terrorist/pedophile prophet, you are then a fundamental "true" muslim and hence...in the Western world, the enemy of the free world!

Look...we are all flawed to one degree or another in our humanity. Even if we found a perfect church organization it would cease to be perfect in a sense once we joined it because of our flawed human nature, right? Therefore, it stands to reason that there will be good and bad examples of followers in every faith - that is a common denominator among all of them.

However, as many of us see in the news, there seems to be at least one suicide bombing or act of terror in the name of islam each and every day. And unfortunately they are often cowardly directed at unarmed, innocent civilians.

It would be one thing if these terrorists just happened to be culturally muslim and were committing these crimes for some ulterior human motive like money and materials. These things happen, and therefore we should not lay blame on a whole group as a result. But these animals claim to do it out of religious conviction. So, I ask...have these extremists “hijacked” Islam or are they the true representatives of it as they claim?

Any objective person would question this, if there something inherently violent about the faith for this to happen on a virtually daily basis. As I asked before...If Catholics, Buddhists, Hinduists, or any other religion were committing these types of atrocities on such a frequent basis - while invoking the name of religion - any objective person would likewise call them into question too. But is that the case? Why does it always seem to be in the name of Islam and not any other religion? Where are they getting these ideas from?

Sorry to repeat myself but this is important. Yes, many Muslim apologists will say that it is a few bad apples who don't represent the whole. Fair enough, that may be a valid argument as I stated above, but how do we put this to the test? What about those terrorists claiming the "moderate" Muslims are not really Muslims and denounce their cowardice? How do we know which faction represents Islam most closely? Who is the true Muslim?

Here in USA Today you have an article stating 'moderate' muslims are everywhere so it is easy to conclude that if you follow fundamental islam as stated in the koran and by the life and misdeeds of their prophet, all bets are off for non-believers...and yes, 'moderate' muslims!

 

Another thing on this topic...

I would strongly suggest that 'moderate' or 'not-muslim-enough' muslims should spend more time trying to reach the 'fundamentall' muslims and convert them with the same zeal they use to try and deflect blame onto other peoples and faiths. Honestly...I don't know how they will do it with no authoritative hiearchy and with those 100's of passages in the koran, but I wish them good luck in their endeavors.

They are going to need it...and if they wouldn't deal with this cancer (as evidenced by their INACTIONS), then WE will have to deal with it.

 

Cancer...animals....which scary word next? Oohh! I know!! Republicans!!!