What Is Behind Asian Racism?

I appreciate your observation and perspective, but look at it differently.

Like family members who tend to more readily lash out against each other than against people they don't know so well, I think that the familiarity you reference doesn't breed contempt, but provides a more reliable basis for knowing what reaction to anticipate to offensive gestures.

Sort of like Putin's willingness to annex Crimea during Obama's presidency, and invade Ukraine during Biden's. Their reluctance to follow through, compared with Trump's obvious lack of such predictability is a harbinger of what Putin respects and what he is willing to challenge. We're in for 3 more years of hellish conflict unless someone other than Biden takes a leading role in this situation. Angela Merkel is my choice.

Also, while this possibility feels very foreign to me, and quite unlikely, one should probably not discount that some species may not evaluate risk at all.

In any case, returning to the subject of this thread, I found the high quality data in that report both compelling and revealing.

I was pretty confident that whites were not as violent toward minorities as the other way around, but I was almost dumbstruck at how different the numbers are in that regard.

 

Yes, I drifted a bit. It just got me thinking about the damn squirrels! I also had a comment about how political narratives like "evil racist white people" have a way of obscuring the Truth. I was going to use an example that focuses on "racism in healthcare". That's when I felt myself drifting again.

 

My Hebrew ancestors were enslaved by the Egyptians until Moses led them to freedom. When I've contacted the Egyptian government for reparations, I was told the check is in the mail. I think it's a pyramid scheme.

 

I wish I could muster a comparable sense of humor during my own sleeping hours . . .

 

Wake up and go to sleep!

 

@toughcoins chart updated...

 

Nice Job YP, thanks for making my spreadsheet so much easier to read.

I find it quite telling that the propensity for Asians, Latinos and Blacks to commit more violent crimes against other races than against their own is so much greater than for Whites. Roughly 10 times greater? Really?

To liberals I must ask, why is this so counter to your claims of White Racism against minorities?

Could it be that White Racism is nothing more than a media-manipulated public perception?

 

I can't call these people "Liberals", anymore. I'm a Liberal. These people are an entirely different species!

The question I must ask, "If the data presented in the charts is irrefutable, why keep pushing dissonant narratives?".

There's a limit to how far the Left can gaslight the Public. Once that limit's reached, they lose your voice. No one wants the Left to lose their voice...just their dishonestly. Honesty is always the best policy.

“Love your Enemies, for they tell you your Faults.”
- Poor Richard’s Almanack, 1756

Edit: Sorry @toughcoins I didn't mean "you".

 

Some flaws there.

1. There are plenty of ways racism takes place that do not involve a crime.

2. Consider the population differences. Because white people are the largest population, it makes sense they should more frequently have crimes done to them. There are literally more to do crime against. This is especially demonstrated when you redo that ratio for minorities and exclude crimes against whites as an outlier.

3. Even if the assertion were fair and accurate, the difference in the ratio does not preclude the existence of racism against minorities by white people. It's a logical fallacy.

 

You're correct...not all disagreements end in "violent confrontation"...which is what this chart documents.

Just because someone doesn't like you, doesn't make them "racist". That's what makes America great! Everyone is free to like whomever they please! Even if that means disliking a person who (intentionally or not) identifies with a "disagreeable group". If you want to be liked, be more likeable and don't associate with Ne'er-Do-Wells...it's easy!

There...I just shared some "White Privilege".

 

Funny you should mention that you consider yourself liberal YP.

On more than one occasion I've described my upbringing as being liberal.

I really don't think I've changed much, other than becoming more "sage with age".

Interestingly when my Mom, who raised me in her flower power household, questions what's become of me, my response is that I've matured . . . That I'm now swayed more by demonstrable proof than by wistful theory.

 

Liberals believe in "Liberty for All"...within the boundaries of our agreed-upon Constitution. If there's any other requirement for being a Liberal, I don't know what it is. I'm actually a registered Democrat, but that's only because Independents can't vote in Maryland primaries...and Maryland is a Democrat State.

I keep voting for lousy Democrats in the primaries...in hopes the Republican might win in the General election. Unfortunately, all I end up with are lousier Democrats.

 

Crime demonstrates an indifference to doing wrong to others. Is it logical then that Whites so readily intend harm to minorities, whether that harm is criminal or not? Is that not counter to the allegations you make?

How is it that Whites should be removed from the calculus as an outlier if, given the traditionally leftist contention that the races are so unacceptably segregated, the minorities must be going out of their way to commit a disproportionately high number of violent crimes against Whites?

I'm not saying racism against minorities by white people doesn't exist. I'm saying it is not as widespread as you claim, and certainly not systemic. I might go as far as to say that racism in the opposite direction might even be underestimated by the Left . . . at least that's the way it looks. Again, go back to my reply to your point 1 . . . that crime demonstrates an indifference to harming others . . .


There will be flaws in any analysis, but the revelations from the data presented overwhelmingly oppose your claims.

 

What I'm getting at is that if there's 20 people in a room, roughly 12 are white, 3 are black, 3 are latino, 1 is asian, and 1 is other. It makes sense you'd see a higher ratio of crime against other races when your race is a minority rather than a majority. I just don't think that ratio is as insightful as it may seem.

I think there's an interesting and fundamental misunderstanding here about "systemic" racism. If it's systemic, it's built into the system, built into the laws. There's no need to commit crimes because in theory the system works to keep minorities down as a baseline.

 

I agree, but you're clearly not getting my point GW. The ratios reflect unfavorably despite the fact that those numbers are not gathered in close proximity. Bring them into closer proximity, and the disparity will likely go up.

Oh, I do not misunderstand about systemic racism. You misunderstand, that average members of society do not gather in some back room, rub their hands together, colluding, strategizing and structuring our systems to limit the opportunities of others, be they Asian, Latino, Black and yes, even White.

Are there snobs in the world who, given that chance, might do so? I'd say yes, but they do that to prop themselves up over all others, and do not discriminate between the races in doing so, instead trying to hold all others down . . . I call that classism, not racism.

Are there some racists out there? Absolutely . . . White racists, Black racists, Latino racists, Asian racists, and more no doubt. Do they occasionally weadle themselves into positions of power, and effect changes that somehow oppress members of other races? I suspect that checks and balances enough exist in governments at all levels to prevent that, but let's say for the sake of argument that they do. Do those racists permeate all levels of government all across the nation, metastasizing like a cancer . . . I think not.

There's just no way your assertion holds up. Systemic Racism is BS . . . a politically-motivated concoction of the Democratic Party . . . a remotely plausible appeal for votes for the supposedly empathetic party, nothing more.

 

It's interesting to note the low level of violence of Asians...especially when there's so much violence directed at them. Perhaps that's why no one trusts Asians...they can't figure them out.