Al Qaida - a US puppet

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kathaksung, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Here is a news to prove my previous comment. This is how US recruit and train prisoner to their false flag operators. How can a released Guantanamo detainee so quickly becoming the Taliban military leader in charge of operations against U.S. and Afghan forces in southern Afghanistan? Because he has the resource of money and weapons which supplied by Pentagon. His recruit history is similar to Padilla. He will play the similar role Bin Laden once did. He may also be sacrificed like Zharcarwi when Pentagon thinks it's necessary. Anyway, Pentagon said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees are believed to have returned to the fight. Quantanamo College really trained a lot of false flag operators. Pentagon need not worry of the shortage of such supply.

    Officials: New Taliban chief was once at Gitmo
    Operation officer was released to the Afghan government in 2007
    A.P.
    updated 5:20 p.m. PT, Tues., March. 10, 2009

    Taliban's new operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration's efforts to close the prison.

    U.S. authorities handed over the detainee to the Afghan government, which in turn released him, according to Pentagon and CIA officials.

    Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, formerly Guantanamo prisoner No. 008, was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government in December 2007. Rasoul is now known as Mullah Abdullah Zakir, a nom de guerre that Pentagon and intelligence officials say is used by a Taliban leader who is in charge of operations against U.S. and Afghan forces in southern Afghanistan.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29622714/
     
  2. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Al Qaeda is More of a U.S. Propaganda Campaign than a Real Organization

    12/24/08
    Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook wrote:
    Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development:

    Former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative"
    http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/testimony/2007/BrzezinskiTestimony070201.pdf.

    And see this Los Angeles Times Article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled "The Power of Nightmares" <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm>, which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has been vastly overblown (and see this article <http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1207-26.htm> on the people within the U.S. who are behind the hype).
    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0111-31.htm

    Not only has the U.S. government hyped Al Qaeda, but it has issued numerous fake terror alerts <http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/02/everyone-knows-bush-has-issued-fake.html> to scare people.

    http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/12/former-british-foreign-secretary-al.html
     
  3. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Sudan is secret partner of U.S.

    Khartoum supplies information to the CIA on insurgents in Iraq
    By Greg Miller and Josh Meyer
    Originally published June 11, 2007

    Washington // Sudan has secretly worked with the CIA to spy on the insurgency in Iraq - an example of how the United States has continued to cooperate with the Sudanese regime even while condemning its role in the killing of tens of thousands of civilians in Darfur
    The relationship underscores the complex realities of the post-Sept. 11 world, in which the United States has relied heavily on intelligence and military cooperation from countries, including Sudan and Uzbekistan, that are considered pariah states for their records on human rights.

    Sudan has become increasingly valuable to the United States since the Sept. 11 attacks because the Sunni Arab nation is a crossroads for Islamic militants making their way to Iraq and Pakistan.

    That steady flow of foreign fighters has provided cover for Sudan's Mukhabarat intelligence service to insert spies into Iraq, officials said.

    "If you've got jihadists traveling via Sudan to get into Iraq, there's a pattern there in and of itself that would not raise suspicion," said a former high-ranking CIA official familiar with Sudan's cooperation with the agency. "It creates an opportunity to send Sudanese into that pipeline."

    (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/na...jun11,0,7816375.story?coll=bal-home-headlines)
     
  4. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Supported by Pentagon. When they fought for the interest of US, their name is Muhahideem or Islamic resistence, when they were in false flag attack, then they have a new name of Al Qaida to cut the link with the CIA and Pantagon.

     
  5. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    After Soviet bloc collapsed in 1992, US intelligence turned its resource once used against Soviet Union on to the Islamic bloc because of its oil tresure. A large quantity of informants converted into Islam to infiltrate the Muslim group. Padilla is one of such story. He was recruited in prison and infiltrated to the Muslim world in 92. Seven years ago, he almost became a dirty bomb witness to justify the Iraq war.

    This one becomes an Al Qaida spokesman. Along with Bin Laden, the Al Qaida is under the leadship of US intelligence.

     
  6. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Al Qaida and Mujahedeen

    Bin Laden was an asset of CIA and was used to fight against Soviet Union in 80s. At that time Bin Laden's group was called as Majahideen. Qaida was used as a data base in communiction.

    In early 90, when Soviet Union collapsed, US intelligence turned its resource on to Mid-east countries which are rich in oil resource, they revive the retired asset - Bin Laden. Bin Laden returned to Islamic world trying to provoke a conflict so that US could justify an interference and invasion.

    On 2001, when US inside group had their puppet Bush to be the president, the war was ready. 911 was done to justify the war. To prevent people to link the "terror attack" with Islamic fannatic (Mujahedeen) and CIA, US intelligence then starts to use "Al Qaida" as "terrorist" group to justify the "war on terror". Since then, they blame every terror attack on "Al qaida". Al Qaida could be viewed as a group of special opratives commanded by US intelligence. Their mission is to activate false flag terror attack on civilians to justify US military action.

    What Al Qaida did - bombing WTC, killing US civilians on 911, and bombing innocent civilians in Iraq, all targetted at ordinary people. It tarnished Islam as savage, inhuman, cruel. Who benefited? Who expanded the police power by Patriot Act? Who got fat budget? If you can answer these questions, then you know what is Al Qaida - a tool of US intelligence.
     
  7. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    Are you related to TomCorona? If not, can you explain why you keep making consecutive posts without giving others a chance to respond?
     
  9. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    Yes...he would like you to slow down to a pace that doesn't throw out too many facts at once..
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    I guess you are unaware that it is rude to do that. It explains why you keep doing it.
     
  11. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    Folks mostly ignore instead of responding.
    I keep posting instead of retreating.
    I think it's rude to be willfully ignorant. Doesn't stop you either.
     
  12. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    ok guy's enough allready
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    My question was to the OP. It is a legitimate question to which I would like an answer. It is not my fault that Tom trolls every post I make to stir things up.
     
  14. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida

    By Peter Chamberlin 13 Jan 2008

    The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation... In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact.
    Article continues--

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7787

    US fight against phantom? A Bin Laden in legend but US can never touch a hair of him. A WMD in Bush's mouth but can never been found. Government always put a target there so they can squeeze money and power from people. Al Qaida becomes an universal excuse. Here is another phantom.
     
  15. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says

    By Michael R. Gordon
    Published: July 18, 2007

    BAGHDAD: For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.

    As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.

    On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.

    Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.

    "First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."

    http://b.casalemedia.com/V2/67072/1...mormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=106780
     
  16. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Al Qaida works for US intelligence. From time to time they issued a tape to help their master: either in election or when there is a bill to pass.

    4. Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
    Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
    Steve Watson / Infowars.net | October 5 2006

    Related: Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/021006video.htm>
    Related: Atta's Father Says Video Fake, Credibility of 'Hijackers Tape' Crumbles <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/031006faketerror.htm>
    U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos <http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/051006redhanded.htm>

    Following on from our three features on the latest dubious Al Qaeda video, We can reveal that further investigation into the origin of Al Qaeda video and tape release leads straight back to US military intelligence and Donald Rumsfeld.

    The origin of the latest video, starring Mohammed Atta and flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah, has been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media who bizarrely admit that the government has had the tape since late 2001 but still suggest it is a new release by Al Qaeda.
    Interesting also is the fact that in an NBC article <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15082633/>, they admit that before receiving the "exclusive US analysis" of the London Sunday Times' tape, they had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the same tape of Atta earlier this year:
    "The Sunday Times said it had obtained the video “through a previously tested channel” but gave no further details. NBC News filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the videotapes early this year, but the Pentagon has not yet turned them over. "
    This is an open admission that it is the Pentagon that has released this tape and not Al Qaeda. this dovetails with our previous analysis that revealed that the footage has been seen before in a docudrama, the Road to Guantanamo, where it is shown to detainees at camp Delta as an intelligence surveillance tape.

    Along with experts on Islamic terrorist groups
    <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/031006Atta.htm> who are baffled by the video and have declared that it has come from a security agency, the very journalist who received the tape also says the source was not Al Qaeda. <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/051006Atta.htm>

    It is also interesting that this journalist, Yousri Fouda is not only a Sunday Times journalist but also the London Bureau Chief of Al Jazeera. He is the guy who normally breaks all the Al Qaeda tapes anyway, so really the London Times connection is just a smokescreen.
    All evidence indicates that the tapes are provided to Fouda and Al Jazeera by As Sahab, the "production company" of Al Qaeda, via a group known as Intelcenter , who also SELL the videos online.

    Intelcenter normally have the tapes available for sale as soon as they are released, indeed in the past they have even predicted when they are going to get a tape before it is released <http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/07/new_al_qaeda_ta.html>, as they did with the second London bomber tape on the anniversary of 7/7.

    Intel center is run by Ben Venzke, who is an interesting character. A google search <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Venzke%2Bidefense> results in the revelation that he used to be the director of intelligence at a company called IDEFENSE which is a verisign company.

    IDEFENSE is a web security company that monitors intelligence from the middle east conflicts and focuses on cyber threats among other things.

    It is also heavily populated with long serving ex military intelligence officials.
    The Director of Threat intelligence, Jim Melnick, served 16 years in the US army and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and worked in psychological operations. From the IDEFENSE website:

    Prior to joining iDefense, Mr. Melnick served with distinction for more than 16 years in the U.S. Army and the Defense Intelligence Agency. During this period, Mr. Melnick served in a variety of roles, including psychological operations, international warning issues with emphasis on foreign affairs and information operations and Russian affairs. He also served in active political/military intelligence roles with an emphasis on foreign affairs. Mr. Melnick is currently a U.S. Army Reserve Colonel with Military Intelligence, assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Mr. Melnick has been published in numerous military and foreign affairs journals, and has received numerous military and DIA awards. Mr. Melnick has a Master of Arts in National Security and Strategic Studies from the U.S. Naval War College, a Master of Arts in Russian studies from Harvard University, and a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Political Science from Westminster College.

    So here we have a company that by it's own admission has a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld. As Intelcenter and Ben Venzke are directly connected to IDEFENSE, this puts Rumsfeld 3 small steps away from the Al Qaeda propaganda videos.

    http://www.infowars.net/articles/October2006/051006Rumsfeld.htm
     
  17. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication
    3/8/2008

    'In the BBC’s killer documentary called The Power of Nightmares, top CIA officials openly admit, Al-Qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundred’s of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Governments story of Al-qaeda a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after.'

    Watch video here:

    http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html

     
  18. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Those who told truth about Al Qaida, were silenced by "natural disease". Because intelligence don't want others know Terrorist is its tool to control people.

    08.12.22. There Is No 'Al Qaeda' - Ex UK Foreign Secretary

    12-22-8

    "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ."


    -- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
    Robin Cook died in August 2005 of a severe heart attack while mountain climbing in Scotland.

    Wikipedia wrote:Robert Finlayson Cook (28 February 1946 - 6 August 2005), better known as Robin Cook, was a politician in the British Labour Party. He was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2001. He resigned from his post as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council on 17 March 2003 in protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At the time of his death he was president of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group...

    In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:

    “ Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[13] ”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11487
     
  19. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    THE MYTH OF 'AL QAEDA' NOW BEGINNING TO BE RECOGNISED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
    April 19, 2008
    It’s interesting to note that, at long last, the mainstream media is hinting that the words ‘al Qaeda’ has simplistically become a metaphor for those that are fighting the US in Iraq and elsewhere and that ‘al Qaeda’ is not, as they have pushed for years, a specific organisation that is led and organised by the equally metaphoric and very dead ‘Osama bin Laden’.

    http://lataan.blogspot.com/2008/04/myth-of-al-qaeda-now-beginning-to-be.html
     
  20. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

    Al Qaida and real Islam resistence are treated differently.

    The real Islam resistence are put to Quantanamo where they are tortured. Like Zhubadah was waterboarded. But he is not Al Qaida.

    The hired tool such like Moussaoui, Bin Laden, Al Zarqawi all played a strong role to show that Al Qaida is cruel, inhuman. They aimed at common people, either its Americans or Iraqis. What they have done is to justify Bush's war policy. Any benefit to Islam? None. So Bin Laden can never been eliminated. From time to time he issued a tape when Bush needs it. A false flag that helps a lot to neocon but did nothing good to Muslim. That is Al Qaida. That's why Moussaoui cried in court, "I'm Al Qaida." Because Feds need someone to prove 911 was done by Islamic extremist not government insiders.

    Zubaydah, the man CIA used to justify the waterboarding that he confessed in 35 seconds after waterboarding, has a story here.

    Zubaydah Denies al-Qaida Link

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Abu Zubaydah, accused of being a senior al-Qaida operative, says he has been a U.S enemy since childhood but isn't a member of the terrorist group or an associate of Osama bin Laden.

    Zubaydah also told a military hearing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that he had been tortured in U.S. custody and confessed to things he did not do, according to a Pentagon transcript released Monday.

    Zubaydah said that from 1994 to about 2000 he was a facilitator at guest houses in Pakistan, where he helped Muslims get to Afghanistan's Khalden training camp for "defensive jihad'' - that is to fight against forces that invade Muslim lands anywhere. He then helped send the trained militants on to Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere, he said.

    "The statement that I was an associate of Osama bin Laden is false,'' Zubaydah is quoted as saying by the transcript of his March 27 hearing. "I'm not his partner and I'm not a member of al-Qaida.''
    http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...view=collapsed&sb=6&o=21&part=1#Post295965365
     

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