Another Heart-wrenching Loss

So, the body count matters? Frankly, I agree the body count matters, but I'm curious if others here agree.

 

No kidding

 

I've been thinking on how to respond to this. I'm sorry for your son's troubles, and I'm no defender of the pharmaceutical industry, especially in a capitalist context that favors profits over people.

However, there has also been a lot of good. To the point of tools, that's all most medicines are supposed to be. I suffered from a debilitating anxiety disorder (still do I guess, it's not like it's curable) but I manage it now. I need SSRIs to get me partway there though. They don't fix the problems, but they make it so I'm capable of putting the work in myself. They're just tools, not silver bullets. So perhaps I become a bit reactive when I see SSRIs come into the crosshairs as a driver for these atrocities.

 

Even @ that (268) more than 1 is above the mean.

 

You should stick to the point made, instead of resorting to distracting drivel.

 

Do the math again

"More than 1" is basically at rate

 

I think Trump should too, but as you pointed out, that's just not the reality we live in

 

Another illogical logic defense of position...although I recognize that there has not been any definitive position point you have espoused on this Thread.

 

And?

 

Then you missed the real math fun, ca.1963-1975 (that continues to increase).

 

You continue to use illogical logic in defense of your non-declared position.

A personal debilitating anxiety disorder is a goto convenient counterpoint without any substance of why it is a counterpoint or what is the counterpoint.

 

I am astonished you continue to reply with more illogical logic to an illogical logic uttering,

 

I have heard older folks say that the only medicines they had coming up were iodine and aspirin. And fact is, that is probably more lore than fact. But it is fact we weren't prescribing these medicines that alter brain chemistry until the latter half of last century. Now well into the 21st century I would bet that if I did a survey of the local high school that probably half the students were taking some sort of daily prescribed pharmaceutical. In my case my young son was taking amphetamines to control his behavior and a narcotic to fend off the amphetamine so he could sleep. I look back now and wonder how I could have normalized that in my head. But is was medically prescribed so it must have been right. Man, how I wish I could go back and change that..... But it is to the point. This plays out in household after household and as a result we have generation upon generation of walking zombies. It's no wonder they are doing these heinous acts.

 

Just being that less than 2/3 of 1% of 268 is less than 2.

 

I am just going to leave it at this..... Half the pickup trucks in my high school parking lot had rifles hanging in the back window because the guys liked to hunt after school. Nary an eyebrow was raised and drugs for mental health issues were all but unheard of..... As were school shootings.

 

It's very close.

Seems like if you guys actually cared about mass shootings, you might want to focus on whats driving the other 99% of shootings instead of honing in on an ideological pet project? Weird priorities.

 

Pet project? . . . Would you please pull your head out of the sand and recognize the priorities for what they are?

Firearms are not used in every mass killing, yet there's something wrong in the heads of the perpetrators of each and every one of them.

Your failure to acknowledge that reveals that it is you, and not us with a pet project.

 

No, but they are used in the vast majority. Again, just trying to get you guys to focus on the large factors instead of honing in on the sub 1% of trans people who commit these acts.

Perhaps it is not you personally, but many on the right and in this thread seem focused on trans people. Given they represent such a small number of mass murderers, can you agree that it's bigotry and folly to make the conversation about them?

 

Who’s homing in on Trans people in particular? That some Trans folks happen to be a subset of the mentally misaligned we are focused on appears to be circumstantial. That they disproportionally represent the mentally misaligned may not be, but that’s not the point I’m trying to make to you.

My point? That you need to stop diverting to guns when they are a lesser concern than the mindset of the perpetrators.

 

Incorrect. Trans happens to be the flavor of the week. Rather, we are focused on the mental illness that lies underneath and the potential effect of the cesspool of brain altering drugs that nobody wishes to address for some odd reason.