BO & extending unemployment benefits.......

Here's a question:
If our economy is as booming as BO claims it is, if job prospects are his focus, if the picture is as rosey as BO claims it is, why are the extension of unemployment benefits so important? Rather than parading out 3 unemployed people as props to advance his agenda, I would have more confidence if BO had paraded out people who actually had gotten jobs as a result of his spending & taxing measures!

 

The 3 unemployed people? You really are one of humanity's greatest ills.

 

A problem with our unemployment benefits system (besides the fact that we seem to not want to pay for it) is that it is a dead end. We give people money and hope the economy gets better and they can get jobs. There really is no concerted effort to train them in any skills or to give them work experience. We don't invest money in them, we just pay them off so they don't give us any trouble.

 

Has he actualy said that the American economy is booming?

 

I really doubt he has said that! lol He does like to make a lot of noise about 'saved' jobs which are pretty nebulous even though that has almost certainly happened to some extent. 7 or 800 billion dollars will at least buy you some saved jobs no matter what they spend it on.

Whether that is a big bragging point to be bringing up as a return on all that (deficit) investment is debatable, though. But, when the pickings are slim and the election is coming, he has to hang his hat where he can.

But, no, I don't anyone, let alone the President, is foolish enough to think this economy is booming...unless that boom is an implosion.

 

Well perhaps if the greed of corporations, their CEO's and the rest of their criminal bandwagon downsizing, outsourcing, merging and bonus happy ripoff artists could be arrested, then perhaps you wouldn't have all these unemployed folks to begin with. Ok to pay obscene profit to a privelged few and bitch about the poor folks simply trying to survive "wanting handouts". Sick friggin society.

 

I never thought of that. Eliminate all the corporations and we will have plenty of jobs. No need to train the unemployed or give them any help in job skills, they will just magically find jobs once the corporations are gone! That is a great idea. Not overly simplistic at all.

I could try to go into a meaningful post on what is done and the programs available for veteran's looking for jobs but no need now since you have stumbled onto the perfect solution with no thinking needed at all!

 

....and according to Toe, if you cap the profits a company is allowed to make that company will thrive & keep creating jobs, as well. Additionally, if you let the employees have the run of the store- determine for themselves when & how much they work, how much they are paid, etc- the company should thrive. Does that about sum it up Toe?

By the way, I didn't criticize BO for the bill he signed, I simply pointed out that confidence should have been projected at his recent performance if he expects us to buy into his "The Summer of Recovery".

 

We all know that you have a solution to the problem of corporate greed and corruption. David provides an insight to your wisdom with every post in his signature line

I guess you have not heard about the scandal in Bell, California. Three city officials were forced to resign because of their ridiculous government salaries. Here is a quote and link from the article on CNN.com.

"Just to put it in context, the general fund for the city of Bell is $15 million. So, Mr. Rizzo with his salary and compensation package, around $800,000 is about one-fifteenth of the budget for the city of Bell," De La Torre said."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/23/california.salaries.resign/index.html

In your warped little world, greed and corruption are under the sole possession of the Republican right and corporate capitalists. The truth is Tom that greed and corruption are shared by all, democrats & republicans, capitalists & socialists, even military & civilian. It may be easier for you to stereotype the republicans and capitalists as the evils of our society, but it only makes you appear foolish and naive. Now we all know that you will claim that it is a matter of degree and that the greed & corruption of the republicans & capitalists can't be compared to the other groups. Well here is my challenge for you Tom. Robert Rizzo's salary was over 5% of his city's total operating budget. Please find one example of any corporate capitalist whose salary is above 5% of that companies yearly operating budget.

I want the name, company name, salary (including stock payments), and company operating budget.

 

I am all for Unemployment in theory, but the unfortunate part of our unemplyment system is that a great number of people will ride it out untill it expires, then complain about needing more. I have personally seen this happen with hard working people who have lost their jobs and figured "I can use a little break then I'll get back in the game" then next thing you know they are sitting at home playing video games or watching Maury Povich. Unemployment was meant as a temporary aide, not an everlasting crutch. Maybe if they kept the 99 week cap
people would be forced to go get a job.

 

YOU said "eliminate all corporations". I was referring to their greed, corruption and other "non beneficial to society" acts of piracy.
WTG Alabama slammer.

 

I happily reinterate. When given the choice between the corporate criminals and their land stripping profit methods of running things and the government "fixing" things, I'll take the government. I'd rather the majority benefiting in some small way rather than the small minority benefiting from the enslaved, exploited and raped majority that really don't have much of a choice.

 

I know...I know..."They did it too". So everything's cool.

 

Yeah..."riding" that wealth of unemployment insurance pile of cash is something we all envy.

 

So you want corporations to exist, you just want them to be nice corporations? I'd love to hear your plan that does that and leaves the corporations and all the jobs intact.

 

In my area there was a recent plant closing & nearly 3000 people lost their jobs over a 3 month period. The local newspaper ran 2 articles...1 was about the free training classes being offered at a local community college for the displaced workers. Something lke 6 people showed up. The reason given for the no-shows? Plenty of time to take advantage of the free college because the workers had unemployment to get them through. The other article was about a company hosting an open house seeking to fill 70 positions (comparable to the jobs lost). The company was expecting 1500 applicants but only had fewer than 200. The reason? You guessed it, the security blanket of $400/wk unemployment checks.
We have a lady where I work whose husband lost his job at the same plant, after 20+ years. We offered him a position but he said "no" because he felt he had worked long enough that he was just going to kick back & draw his unemployment for as long as he could.
I think given the choice...in the atmosphere the libs have created...many more people will choose to collect unemployment for a couple of years rather than get out, beat the streets & look for a job. I see it, I hear it.

 

Simple morals would be a good start. Something abandoned for excess. You'd be surprised how far that could take things.

 

Sounds like your area has adopted the corporate policy of simply taking whatever they can get. I don't know where they could have learned such a thing. Don't know where they could have learned such poor morality. Take as much as you can for as long as you can?...extract whatever you can ignoring the long term consequences of your actions..? Manipulate the system? Cash is lieu of morality? Ignore the ramifications for easy cash?

Geez...I thought those were all profitable and accepted business practices. I thought the generation of cash for whatever reason was good corporate policy and considered best despite its' effects on others. Don't know where people get these concepts.

There has to be a "they did it too" acceptable defense in there somewhere.

 

That is fine but how do make a corporation have morals.

 

Accountability. Tight regulations on shady practices. Strong consequences for those entities that ignore laws and commit infractions.
For instance, mandatory jail time versus simply fining companies like BP, that would rather take the chance and then pay the fine rather than following the law. Remove the incentive for corruption and replace it with real consequences. Make it "not profitable" for businesses to engage in illicit behavior in the first place, or to take the chance. Morality may not be programmable, but it can certainly be influenced with real consequences for corporate gamblers that blur the lines of legality for gain. Another example....the illegals thing. Remove the incentive for both the illegal and the would be employer. Jail the lawbreaking employer thus making it too much of a risk hiring them in the first place. But that's not what we do is it? Wealth excuses unlawful behavior for the most part and everybody bit**es about the poor slob trying to literally survive by, my God, "working for very low wages". Yeah...it's their fault. Not the usually wealthy employer who hires them in the first place for......"profit", greed, etc,etc,etc. You got cash? You're excused. Poor and not able to pay cash? You're the problem for trying to survive. CRAPITALISM over morality and humanity. Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah...corporate America.