Fair media?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rlm's cents, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    I know. :D I despise theft made legal by bribes to lawmakers. And Care Bears.
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    And just what do you think socialism and communism are based in.
     
  3. CoinOKC
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    Here's an interesting article on Vaclav Havel, the former Czech president who died today, December 18. Here's a sentence from the article in which Obama refers to communism:

    "His peaceful resistance shook the foundations of an empire, exposed the emptiness of a repressive ideology, and proved that moral leadership is more powerful than any weapon," U.S. President Barack Obama said in a statement.

    http://news.yahoo.com/former-czech-president-havel-dies-tv-112758479.html
     
  4. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    The greedy, selfish, and uncaring people in America agree with you.
     
  5. HollysMom

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    Good Luck Bear is awesome . . . oh, and Grumpy Bear rulz. Grumpy Bear gives kids everywhere permission to say, "I'm not happy today and it's okay to feel that way sometimes." *hugs Grumpy Bear*
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    You mean the ones who actually think before they speak?
     
  7. IQless1
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    So does anyone here support our system of corrupt lawmakers?

    Who here believes it's perfectly acceptable to bribe lawmakers?

    Anyone? :confused:

    I say the systems of government aren't the problem. It's the greed, selfishness, and uncaringness of corrupt people in charge of the systems that are.

    I have no issue with someone buying something for a buck (materials/labor/advertising/packaging/shipping) and selling it for two. I really don't. I do have an issue with that person bribing lawmakers who make laws that benefit the person, at the expense of others.
     
  8. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    I can hear you thinking from here. Hell, I knew you'd be thinking bs about now... knew it before you even got up this morning... knew it before you were even born. I'm that far ahead of you... do try to keep up lol
     
  9. rlm's cents
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    Seriously - and yet you want government to take over health care and the rest of the economy? Somehow I am missing something in that logic.
     
  10. IQless1
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    People live in communities, not capital-ities.

    One reason I can't agree with die-hard Republican ideals is that it treats people as capital. They assign a value on a person based on what their income is. If that value is too low, they scream bloody-murder about how their taxes are being misused to support a valueless person. It's a belief that promotes greed, selfishness, and an uncaring behavior.

    Communities are a place where groups of people live and work together. Die-hard Republican ideals say that if you are not working, you shouldn't be part of the community. Yet, when those same people are unable to support themselves, they look to the community for aid.

    Under the die-hard Republican ideal, they themselves would not receive any community support... they'd be living in a capital-y after all, and they no longer would have any value, so whatever happens to them... so be it.

    I, for one, do not want to live in a capital-y. Even if that means the country would have to support a die-hard Republican during his/her time of need. But then again... I'm not as greedy, or selfish, or uncaring as a die0hard Republican appears to be.
     
  11. IQless1
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    In order to survive a person needs three basic things: Food, clothing, and shelter. I go further and add health. Without adequate health, a person's life is miserable. A lack of health encourages diseases to flourish, something the government would want to restrict, and anyone smart enough to understand the consequences of rampant disease in the public would to.

    Your position on PPACA is that it's requirement to purchase health insurance is unwanted, that the law came into being through bribes and corruption. I'm not disagreeing with most of that. I will disagree that it is unwanted. From what I can tell, most of the people against it already have insurance and will not be required to purchase more. The argument is that their premiums may rise or be discontinued... neither of which I find any credibility in. Premiums will rise, that's a certainty, but that's what premiums do... with or without the law. Policies change too... all the time. Insurance people do that to make an insane amount of money from us. Again, that was already there before PPACA.

    In my case though, I can't afford it... so I'll be on the governent's health plan. It'll still cost me money I'm sure, through co-pays or other charges by the hospitals and the plan itself, but it'll also mean the hospital can't ignore me like they have in the past... maybe I'll have a chance at being healthy. So it's not unwanted by me at least.

    So, are you a supporter of our system of government? Knowing how corrupted it's become? Why do I ask? Because, while a certain amount of patriotism is healthy, ignoring what is wrong with the country because of blind-patriotism is unAmerican. Our system is corrupt, if we don't remove the corruption it will fail, and that would be real bad for the country. Instead of worrying about communism creeping into America... why not focus more on what is a more pressing issue?
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    Man, did you miss what I was saying;
    And yet these corrupt, bribeable lawmakers are the ones you want to run your health care. Really? They are the ones I want out of my healthcare. Really!!

    And, absolutely no, I am not "a supporter of our system of [current] government? Knowing how corrupted it's become?" Remember, I am the one who wants it minimized and you are the who wants it to control and run your life.
     
  13. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    ...and you apparently missed were I said I didn't disagree that the system is corrupt. But, fly your flag, sing your national anthem, saluting the whole time. Just ignore the problem and convince yourself it isn't real.

    I control my life. I run my life. Are you saying you can't say the same? :confused:
     
  14. rlm's cents
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    If you control your life and run your life, how can you rely on the corrupt, bribeable government to support yourself? To me, they are mutually exclusive.
     
  15. CoinOKC
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  16. IQless1
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    Not trying to be a *poof* here but, how is my running my life connected to the government supporting me? It's not. I don't receive any government assistance of any kind, though David considers that bs 'cause I get a tax-refund. If I receive government insurance through PPACA when it goes into effect, than yeah... I'll receive that... and gladly. Am I relying on it? Maybe... for my health, since it's obvious I can't afford health insurance now, or get adequate care.

    What would you prefer I do? I mean besides the usual "work harder" bs, we all know that's a given when possible. Should I refuse treatment, and ignore any medical issues including possible heart attacks in the future, 'cause the government'll be paying for it and that doesn't sit right with you? Does that bother you that much that I'd accept that assistance?

    At least you seem to have understood that America has some corruption issues in the political system. I guess that's a start lol
     
  17. IQless1
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    I heard. When it was first announced on Korean broadcasts (no, I don't watch them) the reporter in North Korea was apparently crying. I immediately began to wonder if he/she was crying the proper amount of tears... and what the punishment might be if the amount was deemed inappropriate.
     
  18. CoinOKC
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    I think everyone in North Korea is allowed to cry equally. No more and no less than their comrades.
     
  19. rlm's cents
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    I don't think I misread this line -
     
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