FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:35:30 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2:16pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Philosophers can say any damned thing, apparently, even though,
>> technically, philosophy requires proof for its assertions (that's what is
>> _supposed_ to distinguish it from primitive or undifferentiated ideology
>> and religion/mysticism).
>
> Philosophy only requires internal consistency, not external
> verification. It is the search for TRUTH.

Which refers to the external. You can be perfectly consistently false.

And assertions like that one prove only the failure of modern philosophy.

No ivory towers, please!

> If you're interested in FACT, Dr. Jones' archeology class is down the
> hall.

<deferential gesture:>

I prefer individual study.

>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>> Universe, since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>>> Or something like that.
>>
>> An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity
>> of the abusing ideology in doubt.
>
> All ideologies are subject to the staggering limitations of the human
> intellect.

We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .

For example, one does not have to study and understand Russell and
Whitehead's _Principia Mathematica_ or any of its successors in order to
add and subtract . . . .

--
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smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

Given a manifold M with a submanifold N, N can be knotted in M
if there exists an embedding of N in M which is not isotopic to N.
Traditional knots form the case where N = S1 and M = S3.

< Deep wisdom from on high (Wikipedia)

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Dec 31, 2:45?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
> century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .

Onward and upward, better and brighter, towards enlightenment. Just
ask anyone in 1913, 1938, or 9/10/2001.

There is no normalization, for there is no meaning independent of
context, or semantics independent of syntax. Daniel Dennett ate you
internal qualia.

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Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:35:30 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2:16pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Philosophers can say any damned thing, apparently, even though,
>> technically, philosophy requires proof for its assertions (that's what is
>> _supposed_ to distinguish it from primitive or undifferentiated ideology
>> and religion/mysticism).
>
> Philosophy only requires internal consistency, not external
> verification. It is the search for TRUTH.

Which refers to the external. You can be perfectly consistently false.

And assertions like that one prove only the failure of modern philosophy.

No ivory towers, please!

> If you're interested in FACT, Dr. Jones' archeology class is down the
> hall.

<deferential gesture:>

I prefer individual study.

>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>> Universe, since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>>> Or something like that.
>>
>> An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity
>> of the abusing ideology in doubt.
>
> All ideologies are subject to the staggering limitations of the human
> intellect.

We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .

For example, one does not have to study and understand Russell and
Whitehead's _Principia Mathematica_ or any of its successors in order to
add and subtract . . . .

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

Given a manifold M with a submanifold N, N can be knotted in M
if there exists an embedding of N in M which is not isotopic to N.
Traditional knots form the case where N = S1 and M = S3.

< Deep wisdom from on high (Wikipedia)

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Dec 31, 2:45?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
> century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .

Onward and upward, better and brighter, towards enlightenment. Just
ask anyone in 1913, 1938, or 9/10/2001.

There is no normalization, for there is no meaning independent of
context, or semantics independent of syntax. Daniel Dennett ate you
internal qualia.

--
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Meower since 1996-03-30 (wave 2.3) | mhm since 1998-06-18
Denizen of alt.food.dennys | Father of alt.food.mentos
Grand Ultimageneralissimo of the Shock and Awe wing of the Usenet
Flame Force / Defensive Alliance

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:56:01 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2:45pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
>> century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .
>
> Onward and upward, better and brighter, towards enlightenment. Just
> ask anyone in 1913, 1938, or 9/10/2001.

Puerile cynicism unresponsive to the point:

Politics is rarely the work of philosophers, especially real philosophers,
the kind that require proofs of assertions.

> There is no normalization, for there is no meaning independent of
> context, or semantics independent of syntax. Daniel Dennett ate you
> internal qualia.

What, without proof, which you attacked in what you've snipped? that
should be convincing <snort>.

And context not referring to the external, which you likewise attacked in
what you've snipped? or syntax likewise?

Such preening attacks as you've shown here I take it are what can be
expected from "modern philosophy", as exhibited in the schools, perhaps
most brilliantly (<snort>) in constructivism/deconstructionism.

Like children grinning amid the ruins of their fathers' tools.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

See _Laws of Form_, Chapters 1 through 10 and Appendix 2,
first backward and then forward.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:56:01 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2:45pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We can work at things collectively, student after student, century after
>> century, using symbolic procedure and normalization to roll right along . . . .
>
> Onward and upward, better and brighter, towards enlightenment. Just
> ask anyone in 1913, 1938, or 9/10/2001.

Puerile cynicism unresponsive to the point:

Politics is rarely the work of philosophers, especially real philosophers,
the kind that require proofs of assertions.

> There is no normalization, for there is no meaning independent of
> context, or semantics independent of syntax. Daniel Dennett ate you
> internal qualia.

What, without proof, which you attacked in what you've snipped? that
should be convincing <snort>.

And context not referring to the external, which you likewise attacked in
what you've snipped? or syntax likewise?

Such preening attacks as you've shown here I take it are what can be
expected from "modern philosophy", as exhibited in the schools, perhaps
most brilliantly (<snort>) in constructivism/deconstructionism.

Like children grinning amid the ruins of their fathers' tools.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

See _Laws of Form_, Chapters 1 through 10 and Appendix 2,
first backward and then forward.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:27:26 -0500, mimus wrote:

> constructivism

Structuralism.

Winging it again, eh, Mr. mimus?

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

"You are either insane or a fool."
"I am a sanitary inspector."

< _Maske: Thaery_

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:27:26 -0500, mimus wrote:

> constructivism

Structuralism.

Winging it again, eh, Mr. mimus?

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

"You are either insane or a fool."
"I am a sanitary inspector."

< _Maske: Thaery_

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Dec 31, 3:35?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:27:26 -0500, mimus wrote:
> > constructivism
>
> Structuralism.
>
> Winging it again, eh, Mr. mimus?

Winging it, my ass. Everything I've said in this thread comes from
skimming Wikipedia articles.

That, my dear friend mimus, is "Winging it."

We don't speak words. Words speak *us*.

Also cocks.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Dec 31, 3:35?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:27:26 -0500, mimus wrote:
> > constructivism
>
> Structuralism.
>
> Winging it again, eh, Mr. mimus?

Winging it, my ass. Everything I've said in this thread comes from
skimming Wikipedia articles.

That, my dear friend mimus, is "Winging it."

We don't speak words. Words speak *us*.

Also cocks.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Jan 1, 6:16?am, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:14:30 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti wrote:

> > Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
> > Universe,

Don't be an idiot, the Earth revolves around the Sun, along
with the other ORBITING planets ..it cannot
possibly be the 'centre' of the universe, or even of
our solar system, you silly medieval fundamentalist! B^D

>> since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>> Or something like that.
>
> An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity of
> the abusing ideology in doubt.

Axel's stupidity is a "misapplication of terms'(sic)

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!




> Feh.
>
> --
> tinmimu...@hotmail.com
>
> smeeter 11 or maybe 12
>
> mp 10
>
> mhm 29x13
>
> "You are either insane or a fool."
> "I am a sanitary inspector."
>
> < _Maske: Thaery_

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Jan 1, 6:16?am, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:14:30 -0800, Axel Hussein Yerbouti wrote:

> > Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
> > Universe,

Don't be an idiot, the Earth revolves around the Sun, along
with the other ORBITING planets ..it cannot
possibly be the 'centre' of the universe, or even of
our solar system, you silly medieval fundamentalist! B^D

>> since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>> Or something like that.
>
> An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity of
> the abusing ideology in doubt.

Axel's stupidity is a "misapplication of terms'(sic)

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!




> Feh.
>
> --
> tinmimu...@hotmail.com
>
> smeeter 11 or maybe 12
>
> mp 10
>
> mhm 29x13
>
> "You are either insane or a fool."
> "I am a sanitary inspector."
>
> < _Maske: Thaery_

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Jan 1, 6:35?am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 31, 2:16?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>> Universe,

Google 'Solar System', you medieval fundamentalist, and tell
us which body the planets ORBIT! B^D

>>>since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>>> Or something like that.
>
> > An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity of
> > the abusing ideology in doubt.
>
> All ideologies are subject to the staggering limitations of the human
> intellect.

In your case, especially so! B^D



> Grand Ultimageneralissimo of the Shock and Awe wing of the Usenet
> Flame Force / Defensive Alliance

pompous self-pumping martinet! B^D

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

On Jan 1, 6:35?am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 31, 2:16?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>> Universe,

Google 'Solar System', you medieval fundamentalist, and tell
us which body the planets ORBIT! B^D

>>>since all points in space are the center of the Universe.
>>> Or something like that.
>
> > An abuse of the term "center", and, like all such, casts the integrity of
> > the abusing ideology in doubt.
>
> All ideologies are subject to the staggering limitations of the human
> intellect.

In your case, especially so! B^D



> Grand Ultimageneralissimo of the Shock and Awe wing of the Usenet
> Flame Force / Defensive Alliance

pompous self-pumping martinet! B^D

 

<fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>> Universe,

Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?

 

"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>> Universe,
>
> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>
>
Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to idiots
and retards everywhere.

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>> Universe,
>
>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>

Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>
>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>> Universe,
>>
>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>
>>
>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to idiots
>and retards everywhere.
>
>

So where is the center?

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>
>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>
>>>
>>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>idiots
>>and retards everywhere.
>>
>>
>
> So where is the center?

Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages when
we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements of
science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
religious and not buy into that nonsense.

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>> Universe,
>>
>>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>
>
> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.

I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In fact
we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not ended.
The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said it
is impossible.