FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150th Birthdays This Coming Year

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>
>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>idiots
>>>and retards everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So where is the center?
>
>Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages when
>we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements of
>science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
>who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
>idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
>to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
>religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>

So, you can't define the center, yet you are calling someone that did
define the center an idiot.

You said they were wrong, now prove it.

What is the center of an infinite space?

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>
>>>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>
>>
>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>
>I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In fact
>we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not ended.
>The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said it
>is impossible.
>
>

Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?

Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
you make your measurements.

That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
universe.

Now that you hopefully understand the facts, who would be the
"retarded idiot" that did not know how referentials within infinite
space are manufactured.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

Aratzio wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>> Universe,
>>
>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>
>
> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAA


Ask that Idiot, "Grand Ultima generalissimo Axel Insane Verbooti",
(clearly a Big Sy Baba fan ;-) who says Earth is at it! B^D

What IS clear is that any body ORBITITING around another body,
IS NOT IT! B^D

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

Seon Ferguson wrote:
>
> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>> Universe,
>
> Who was the retarded idiot who said that?

His name is right there, it calls itself "Axel Hussein Yerbouti"
clearly a misspelling of "Axel Inane Verbouti".

> What next the Earth is flat?

He's a hocky fan, Pucked in the head.

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:sjbrl45gs0jjqd2gvl6c2t5g7breed098b@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>
>>>>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>
>>I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In
>>fact
>>we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not
>>ended.
>>The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said
>>it
>>is impossible.
>>
>>
>
> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?
>
> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
> you make your measurements.
>
There is no centre period.

> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
> universe.
>
Has anyone actually been swayed by the bullshit you post?

> Now that you hopefully understand the facts, who would be the
> "retarded idiot" that did not know how referentials within infinite
> space are manufactured.
>
I don't know what your on about but you know the people who said Earth was
the centre of the universe thought God made the universe and Earth
especially for us so since humans are so important we are obviously at the
centre of the universe.

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:lfbrl4thd4fbbs5ako9k817l11aak8eomd@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>idiots
>>>>and retards everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So where is the center?
>>
>>Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages
>>when
>>we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements
>>of
>>science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
>>who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
>>idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
>>to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>>ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
>>religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>>
>
> So, you can't define the center, yet you are calling someone that did
> define the center an idiot.
>
> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>
> What is the center of an infinite space?

I have no idea what you are on about. There is no centre of infinite space
so why are you saying there is a centre?

 

"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3ti7l.6661$cu.5863@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>> Universe,
>>
>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that?
>
> His name is right there, it calls itself "Axel Hussein Yerbouti"
> clearly a misspelling of "Axel Inane Verbouti".
>
All you need to do is add another s and you get insane.

>> What next the Earth is flat?
>
> He's a hocky fan, Pucked in the head.
>
>
>
>
>
>
At least he isn't a hocky mom. Actually he makes Sara Palin look like a
genius.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

Aratzio wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>> idiots and retards everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So where is the center?
>>>
>> Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages when
>> we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements of
>> science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
>> who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
>> idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
>> to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>> ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
>> religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>>
>
> So, you can't define the center,

He never attempted to, Axle Insane, and you apparently,
are the only ones pretending that it can be defined and that
it could be Earth!!!! B^D

> yet you are calling someone that did
> define the center an idiot.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

Only because he IS an idiot, possibly as big an idiot as you! B^D

Explain how the Centre the Universe can orbit around the Sun!? B^]


> You said they were wrong, now prove it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geoz_wb_en.svg

The Geocentric model was disproved, from empirical observations
some centuries ago.. you seem to be a particularly slow-witted dolt
and have not yet caught up with the news!
[Note: the Heliocentric model does not put Sol at the centre of the
universe, or even at the geometric centre of the Solar System, as the
planet's orbits are elliptical. ]

However, as the planets shown do orbit Sol, how can any of them be
the centre of our Solar system? and therefore of any larger
meta-structure, such as our galaxy, where we spin on one of the
spiral arms, or the universe, or even the backs of the turtles
which you and Alex Insane seem to think it all rests upon!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAA

> What is the center of an infinite space?

Certainly not orbiting around a point, or two. B^)


Halfway between your ears, perhaps? B^D

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:36:47 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:sjbrl45gs0jjqd2gvl6c2t5g7breed098b@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>
>>>>>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>>
>>>I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In
>>>fact
>>>we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not
>>>ended.
>>>The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said
>>>it
>>>is impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?

Hrmm, no response, funny that.

>>
>> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
>> you make your measurements.
>>
>There is no centre period.

So here is no reference point in your universe. That must make the
math a bit difficult.

>
>> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
>> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
>> universe.
>>
>Has anyone actually been swayed by the bullshit you post?

Is that your refutation? No actual thought, just "yer lying"? Can you
prove I am wrong? I gave you the facts, if your simple mind cannot
fathom that the center, for the purposes of cosmology, is the origin
then that is the fault of your education system or your genetics.

>
>> Now that you hopefully understand the facts, who would be the
>> "retarded idiot" that did not know how referentials within infinite
>> space are manufactured.
>>
>I don't know what your on about

That was obvious when you started claiming people are "retarded
idiots" for understanding basic astronomical and cosmological
concepts. Bloody hell, it is fucking basic geometry.


>but you know the people who said Earth was
>the centre of the universe thought God made the universe and Earth
>especially for us so since humans are so important we are obviously at the
>centre of the universe.
>

So you think modern cosmology and the astrology and religion of bygone
eras are the same. That would define "idiot".

Hint here "retarded idiot" the main reason the cosmological models
define the earth as the center is because distances in the universe
are all measured with Earth as the Zero point (aka center). It would
be silly to designate some other point as the center and then
reference that with some offset to Earth.

Now would you care to claim some other bogus pseudo-religious bullshit
as your proof?

 

"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:sLi7l.6666$cu.3934@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is
>>>>>> flat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>> idiots and retards everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So where is the center?
> >>>
>>> Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages
>>> when we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the
>>> advancements of science they are still morons (again that's a insult to
>>> morons everywhere) who still hold onto those primitive superstitious
>>> beliefs, they are still idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000
>>> years old! It baffles me as to why some people still cling to those
>>> beliefs that belong tot he dumb ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives
>>> you hope and stuff but you can be religious and not buy into that
>>> nonsense.
>>>
>>
>> So, you can't define the center,
>
> He never attempted to, Axle Insane, and you apparently,
> are the only ones pretending that it can be defined and that
> it could be Earth!!!! B^D
>
> > yet you are calling someone that did
>> define the center an idiot.
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
>
> Only because he IS an idiot, possibly as big an idiot as you! B^D
>
> Explain how the Centre the Universe can orbit around the Sun!? B^]
>
>
>> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geoz_wb_en.svg
>
> The Geocentric model was disproved, from empirical observations
> some centuries ago.. you seem to be a particularly slow-witted dolt
> and have not yet caught up with the news!
> [Note: the Heliocentric model does not put Sol at the centre of the
> universe, or even at the geometric centre of the Solar System, as the
> planet's orbits are elliptical. ]
>
> However, as the planets shown do orbit Sol, how can any of them be
> the centre of our Solar system? and therefore of any larger
> meta-structure, such as our galaxy, where we spin on one of the
> spiral arms, or the universe, or even the backs of the turtles
> which you and Alex Insane seem to think it all rests upon!
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAA
>
>> What is the center of an infinite space?
>
> Certainly not orbiting around a point, or two. B^)
>
>
> Halfway between your ears, perhaps? B^D

Maybe he just thinks he is the centre of the universe. I'm not that arrogant
I know the universe doesn't revolve around me and the universe has existed
billions of years before I was born and will continue to exist.

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:37:45 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:lfbrl4thd4fbbs5ako9k817l11aak8eomd@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>>idiots
>>>>>and retards everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So where is the center?
>>>
>>>Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages
>>>when
>>>we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements
>>>of
>>>science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
>>>who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
>>>idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
>>>to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>>>ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
>>>religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>>>
>>
>> So, you can't define the center, yet you are calling someone that did
>> define the center an idiot.
>>
>> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>>
>> What is the center of an infinite space?
>
>I have no idea what you are on about. There is no centre of infinite space
>so why are you saying there is a centre?
>
Because the math gets rather difficult without one. You are the one
that stated "Who was the retarded idiot who said that? " to an
accurate statement as to the current method of defining referentials
within the current space.

It isn't hard to understand. Most everything in space is measured with
reference to Earth. Therefore that is your center point. It is
completely arbitrary but that does not alter the fact the cosmological
models use the Earth as the center.

Your mistake is confusing actual science with your religious mumbo
jumbo.

 

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:25:53 GMT, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
got double secret probation for writing:

>Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>> Universe,
> >>
>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>
>>
>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>
>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAA
>
>
>Ask that Idiot, "Grand Ultima generalissimo Axel Insane Verbooti",
>(clearly a Big Sy Baba fan ;-) who says Earth is at it! B^D
>
>What IS clear is that any body ORBITITING around another body,
>IS NOT IT! B^D

Why not? It is an arbitrary point of reference and has nothing to do
with any other body. Unless you are defining the other body within the
structure it is not relevant. All rotation does is alter the angle
with respect to the zero point.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

Aratzio wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>
>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>> I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In fact
>> we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not ended.
>> The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said it
>> is impossible.
>>
>>
>
> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?

No, an origin for co-ordinates need not be a centre,
and elliptical orbits have two foci, not a centre,
(unless the foci coincide, producing a circle), for example:

| O
-------
|

The eliptical orbit "O" can be described by any set
of points (x,y) in the Cartesian plane satisfying an equation of the form:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/4/b/94bc0fbfc1ace2e887afbc22be6d3520.png

where a and b are any positive real numbers.


As this approximates the orbit of the Earth around Sol
Earth cannot be the centre of the local Solar system,
or of any surrounding meta structure.

Q.E.D.

> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
> you make your measurements.

If you are choosing an arbitrary origin, then any point will do,
but it's not the centre, and the rest of this is a tautology,
based on a fallacy;

> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.

So you will be apologising to the Church on Galileo's behalf! B^D

Anthropomorphism does not make Earth the Centre of the Universe,
That space appears to be occupied by your ego! B^D


> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
> universe.

No, merely as an arbitrary reference point.

It would be absurd to speak of moving toward the CENTRE of our solar
system while transiting from Mercury to Earth! B^p

You would merely be moving toward an arbitrary, and moving, reference point.

As soon as we move to another Galaxy we would adopt another local
reference point, and the origin changes, ..if we find another
intelligence there, the change could be permanent.

> Now that you hopefully understand the facts,

I would prefer he rationally understood the facts rather
than your hopefulness, which is misplaced.

> who would be the "retarded idiot"

The one who claimed the Earth was the Centre of the Universe,
when it orbits around Sol.

> that did not know how referentials within infinite
> space are manufactured.

Mrs God crochets them in here spare time.. B^D

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:a6frl41relo7ap55fk6lorbvgg7tfg7aqf@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:37:45 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:lfbrl4thd4fbbs5ako9k817l11aak8eomd@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3
>>>>>>>> <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is
>>>>>>> flat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>>>idiots
>>>>>>and retards everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So where is the center?
>>>>
>>>>Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages
>>>>when
>>>>we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements
>>>>of
>>>>science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons
>>>>everywhere)
>>>>who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are
>>>>still
>>>>idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me
>>>>as
>>>>to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>>>>ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can
>>>>be
>>>>religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, you can't define the center, yet you are calling someone that did
>>> define the center an idiot.
>>>
>>> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>>>
>>> What is the center of an infinite space?
>>
>>I have no idea what you are on about. There is no centre of infinite space
>>so why are you saying there is a centre?
>>
> Because the math gets rather difficult without one. You are the one
> that stated "Who was the retarded idiot who said that? " to an
> accurate statement as to the current method of defining referentials
> within the current space.
>
> It isn't hard to understand. Most everything in space is measured with
> reference to Earth. Therefore that is your center point. It is
> completely arbitrary but that does not alter the fact the cosmological
> models use the Earth as the center.
>
> Your mistake is confusing actual science with your religious mumbo
> jumbo.
>
Even if that's true it isn't the centre of the universe that ancient people
thought Earth was and you know it.

 

"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1cerl4t2p1ff5tsf97eggigl53h02q32a8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:36:47 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>>
>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:sjbrl45gs0jjqd2gvl6c2t5g7breed098b@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>>>
>>>>I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In
>>>>fact
>>>>we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not
>>>>ended.
>>>>The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you
>>>>said
>>>>it
>>>>is impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?
>
> Hrmm, no response, funny that.
>
>>>
>>> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
>>> you make your measurements.
>>>
>>There is no centre period.
>
> So here is no reference point in your universe. That must make the
> math a bit difficult.
>
>>
>>> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
>>> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
>>> universe.
>>>
>>Has anyone actually been swayed by the bullshit you post?
>
> Is that your refutation? No actual thought, just "yer lying"? Can you
> prove I am wrong? I gave you the facts, if your simple mind cannot
> fathom that the center, for the purposes of cosmology, is the origin
> then that is the fault of your education system or your genetics.
>
>>
>>> Now that you hopefully understand the facts, who would be the
>>> "retarded idiot" that did not know how referentials within infinite
>>> space are manufactured.
>>>
>>I don't know what your on about
>
> That was obvious when you started claiming people are "retarded
> idiots" for understanding basic astronomical and cosmological
> concepts. Bloody hell, it is fucking basic geometry.
>
>
>>but you know the people who said Earth was
>>the centre of the universe thought God made the universe and Earth
>>especially for us so since humans are so important we are obviously at the
>>centre of the universe.
>>
>
> So you think modern cosmology and the astrology and religion of bygone
> eras are the same. That would define "idiot".
>
> Hint here "retarded idiot" the main reason the cosmological models
> define the earth as the center is because distances in the universe
> are all measured with Earth as the Zero point (aka center). It would
> be silly to designate some other point as the center and then
> reference that with some offset to Earth.
>
> Now would you care to claim some other bogus pseudo-religious bullshit
> as your proof?
>
This is getting boring. No I don't place any point of the universe as centre
because the universe is constantly expanding and that would be stupid.

 

"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:0hj7l.6675$cu.3003@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>> I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In
>>> fact we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has
>>> not ended. The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so
>>> as you said it is impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?
>
> No, an origin for co-ordinates need not be a centre,
> and elliptical orbits have two foci, not a centre,
> (unless the foci coincide, producing a circle), for example:
>
> | O
> -------
> |
>
> The eliptical orbit "O" can be described by any set
> of points (x,y) in the Cartesian plane satisfying an equation of the form:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/4/b/94bc0fbfc1ace2e887afbc22be6d3520.png
>
> where a and b are any positive real numbers.
>
>
> As this approximates the orbit of the Earth around Sol
> Earth cannot be the centre of the local Solar system,
> or of any surrounding meta structure.
>
> Q.E.D.
>
>> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
>> you make your measurements.
>
> If you are choosing an arbitrary origin, then any point will do,
> but it's not the centre, and the rest of this is a tautology,
> based on a fallacy;
>
>> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
>
> So you will be apologising to the Church on Galileo's behalf! B^D
>
> Anthropomorphism does not make Earth the Centre of the Universe,
> That space appears to be occupied by your ego! B^D
>
>
>> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
>> universe.
>
> No, merely as an arbitrary reference point.
>
> It would be absurd to speak of moving toward the CENTRE of our solar
> system while transiting from Mercury to Earth! B^p
>
> You would merely be moving toward an arbitrary, and moving, reference
> point.
>
> As soon as we move to another Galaxy we would adopt another local
> reference point, and the origin changes, ..if we find another intelligence
> there, the change could be permanent.
>
>> Now that you hopefully understand the facts,
>
> I would prefer he rationally understood the facts rather
> than your hopefulness, which is misplaced.
>
> > who would be the "retarded idiot"
>
> The one who claimed the Earth was the Centre of the Universe,
> when it orbits around Sol.
>
I'll bet he's a young Earth theorist as well. I have learnt that these types
are ignorant and have been indoctrinated into their cult so much that it is
pointless debating with them.

 

Re: FlonkNews: Darwin's 200th and _On the Origin of Species_' 150thBirthdays This Coming Year

Aratzio wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:36:47 +1100, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>
>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sjbrl45gs0jjqd2gvl6c2t5g7breed098b@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>>> I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In
>>>> fact
>>>> we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not
>>>> ended.
>>>> The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said
>>>> it
>>>> is impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?
>
> Hrmm, no response, funny that.

Why does anyone have any responsibility to answer your GROUND SHIFTING?
B^)

I suggest you take it as a no. B^D

A point of reference for measurements does NOT equate to 'Centre'

Let me introduce you to Mr Line.

0--------------------C---------------p-----


Point "P" is measured from Origin "O" , which is not the centre "C"
of the line.

Next week we introduce you to Mr Cartesian plane.. and then

n-dimensional space.


Bring your protractor, you will be asked to demonstrate the CENTRE!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA!



Tell me, a bright young turnip like you must have heard of Klein's
bottle, one of many interesting topological structures...

when did you decide to emulate it;


http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html



>
>>> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
>>> you make your measurements.
>>>
>> There is no centre period.
>
> So here is no reference point in your universe.

No, there are as many as you like. Why do you try and pretend they
are the centre of the Solar System, the Galaxy or any other known
feature of the Cosmos?

I suggest you start at GO, do not collect $200.

> That must make the
> math a bit difficult.

If math depended on you finding the Centre of the Universe before
we measured the distance from London to Bath, or Uranus from Sol
we would be in considerable difficulty!

 

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:46:48 GMT, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
got double secret probation for writing:

>Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>> idiots and retards everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So where is the center?
> >>>
>>> Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages when
>>> we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the advancements of
>>> science they are still morons (again that's a insult to morons everywhere)
>>> who still hold onto those primitive superstitious beliefs, they are still
>>> idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000 years old! It baffles me as
>>> to why some people still cling to those beliefs that belong tot he dumb
>>> ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives you hope and stuff but you can be
>>> religious and not buy into that nonsense.
>>>
>>
>> So, you can't define the center,
>
>He never attempted to, Axle Insane, and you apparently,
>are the only ones pretending that it can be defined and that
>it could be Earth!!!! B^D

Maximum obsevable space is 15 billion light years in every direction
from Earth. Therefore within the "observable universe" we are
precisely at the center. There is a clue there but I am guessing you
are not smart enough to figure it out.


>
> > yet you are calling someone that did
>> define the center an idiot.
>
>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
>
>Only because he IS an idiot, possibly as big an idiot as you! B^D
>
>Explain how the Centre the Universe can orbit around the Sun!? B^]

Explain how is cannot. Explain why the observed space ends in every
direction at the same distance from Earth. If I get all sciency on you
your gonna get all cornfuzelled and then you'll be posting more
ignorant gibberish.

>
>
>> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism

Sad, that isn't "current cosmologyl", cupcake. You do know the
difference between history and current?

>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geoz_wb_en.svg
>
>The Geocentric model was disproved, from empirical observations
>some centuries ago.. you seem to be a particularly slow-witted dolt
>and have not yet caught up with the news!
>[Note: the Heliocentric model does not put Sol at the centre of the
>universe, or even at the geometric centre of the Solar System, as the
>planet's orbits are elliptical. ]

A truly a pathetic maundering and so incredibly wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe
Since we were speaking of the "current cosmology" and not astronomy
you will find that to be the correct link.

You can thank me later.

>
>However, as the planets shown do orbit Sol, how can any of them be
>the centre of our Solar system? and therefore of any larger
>meta-structure, such as our galaxy, where we spin on one of the
>spiral arms, or the universe, or even the backs of the turtles
>which you and Alex Insane seem to think it all rests upon!
>
>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAA

Because gibbering fool, you are confused by the fact you have not even
the vaguest of clues what the phrase "current cosmology" meant and are
wandering around willy nilly spewing unrelated astrological
observations as if they are somehow germane to the current cosmology.

>
>> What is the center of an infinite space?
>
>Certainly not orbiting around a point, or two. B^)

Yes it is. The observable universe is a sphere centered upon the
observer. Which makes the Earth the cosmological center of the
universe.

Screaming about astronomy does not alter how cosmology works.


>
>
>Halfway between your ears, perhaps? B^D

Want to try it sing the correct field of science thsi time, cupcake?


Aside: Why is it these fucckwits from alt.atheism are so incredibly
ignorant of general science?

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:06:25 +1100, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
<seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:

>
>
>"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>news:sLi7l.6666$cu.3934@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Aratzio wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:36 +1100, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:v28rl4tq1o649vqkr15le6uv1aub3bkda9@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:47:01 +1100, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:495d9bc6$0$22083$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is
>>>>>>> flat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait I take it back calling them an idiot and a retard is a insult to
>>>>>> idiots and retards everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> So where is the center?
>> >>>
>>>> Not Earth that's the kind of bullshit people said back in the dark ages
>>>> when we were ignorant and didn't have science. Yet even with the
>>>> advancements of science they are still morons (again that's a insult to
>>>> morons everywhere) who still hold onto those primitive superstitious
>>>> beliefs, they are still idiots who think the Earth is *snickers* 8,000
>>>> years old! It baffles me as to why some people still cling to those
>>>> beliefs that belong tot he dumb ages. I mean religion is ok if it gives
>>>> you hope and stuff but you can be religious and not buy into that
>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, you can't define the center,
>>
>> He never attempted to, Axle Insane, and you apparently,
>> are the only ones pretending that it can be defined and that
>> it could be Earth!!!! B^D
>>
>> > yet you are calling someone that did
>>> define the center an idiot.
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
>>
>> Only because he IS an idiot, possibly as big an idiot as you! B^D
>>
>> Explain how the Centre the Universe can orbit around the Sun!? B^]
>>
>>
>>> You said they were wrong, now prove it.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geoz_wb_en.svg
>>
>> The Geocentric model was disproved, from empirical observations
>> some centuries ago.. you seem to be a particularly slow-witted dolt
>> and have not yet caught up with the news!
>> [Note: the Heliocentric model does not put Sol at the centre of the
>> universe, or even at the geometric centre of the Solar System, as the
>> planet's orbits are elliptical. ]
>>
>> However, as the planets shown do orbit Sol, how can any of them be
>> the centre of our Solar system? and therefore of any larger
>> meta-structure, such as our galaxy, where we spin on one of the
>> spiral arms, or the universe, or even the backs of the turtles
>> which you and Alex Insane seem to think it all rests upon!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAA
>>
>>> What is the center of an infinite space?
>>
>> Certainly not orbiting around a point, or two. B^)
>>
>>
>> Halfway between your ears, perhaps? B^D
>
>Maybe he just thinks he is the centre of the universe. I'm not that arrogant
>I know the universe doesn't revolve around me and the universe has existed
>billions of years before I was born and will continue to exist.
>

You and bobble head don't know the difference between cosmology and
astronomy.

The other problem is you are both too stupid to understand there is a
difference.

 

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:22:36 GMT, in the land of
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, fasgnadh <fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au>
got double secret probation for writing:

>Aratzio wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:27:00 +1100, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>
>>> "Aratzio" <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:t18rl4hh0g7ad1ncjunrqe79bulm908o3u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:44:52 +1100, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, "Seon Ferguson"
>>>> <seongf@gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:c90681cc-2027-430a-a7b5-e6bc893e229f@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 6:35 am, Axel Hussein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 31, 2:16 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Axel Insein Yerbouti mhm23x3 <mhm2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Current cosmology *does* place the Earth at the center of the
>>>>>>>>> Universe,
>>>>> Who was the retarded idiot who said that? What next the Earth is flat?
>>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to point out the center of an infinite space.
>>> I never said the universe had a centre. It is constantly expanding. In fact
>>> we are in the aftermath of the big bang. It, like evolution, has not ended.
>>> The centre of the universe for now will change in a second so as you said it
>>> is impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Would you define the center as a point of reference for measurements?
>
>No, an origin for co-ordinates need not be a centre,
>and elliptical orbits have two foci, not a centre,
>(unless the foci coincide, producing a circle), for example:
>
> | O
>-------
> |
>
>The eliptical orbit "O" can be described by any set
>of points (x,y) in the Cartesian plane satisfying an equation of the form:
>
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/9/4/b/94bc0fbfc1ace2e887afbc22be6d3520.png
>
>where a and b are any positive real numbers.

What happens if all measurements indicate your point of observation is
the same distance from all observable ends?

>
>
>As this approximates the orbit of the Earth around Sol
>Earth cannot be the centre of the local Solar system,
>or of any surrounding meta structure.
>
>Q.E.D.

Still not cosmology. Keep trying.

>
>> Since there is no center, the arbitrary center is the point from which
>> you make your measurements.
>
>If you are choosing an arbitrary origin, then any point will do,
>but it's not the centre, and the rest of this is a tautology,
>based on a fallacy;

Except it is observable.
15 billion (or so) light years in every direction the observable
universe ends.

Where does that place the observer?

Oh, the center.


>> That would be for the purposes of most cosmological models, the Earth.
>
>So you will be apologising to the Church on Galileo's behalf! B^D

That is astronomy. Do try to stay with the discussion, it is cosmology
not astronomy.

>
>Anthropomorphism does not make Earth the Centre of the Universe,
>That space appears to be occupied by your ego! B^D

No, the science of cosmology makes it the center.

>
>
>> So it is fully correct to define the Earth as the center of the
>> universe.
>
>No, merely as an arbitrary reference point.

That just happens to be observably in the center. It is arbitrary only
in the sense that the center is the location of the observer.


>
>It would be absurd to speak of moving toward the CENTRE of our solar
>system while transiting from Mercury to Earth! B^p

Absolutely and that strawman has nothing to do with the cosomological
center of the universe.

>
>You would merely be moving toward an arbitrary, and moving, reference point.

Unless you could measure in reference to the observed ends and found
you were equidistant.


>
>As soon as we move to another Galaxy we would adopt another local
>reference point, and the origin changes, ..if we find another
>intelligence there, the change could be permanent.

Nope, the reference point remains: the observer.
Try using cosmology rather than astronomy.

>
>> Now that you hopefully understand the facts,
>
>I would prefer he rationally understood the facts rather
>than your hopefulness, which is misplaced.

Too bad you are using the wrong science.

>
> > who would be the "retarded idiot"
>
>The one who claimed the Earth was the Centre of the Universe,
>when it orbits around Sol.

Yes, it does. Congratulations on your grasp of astronomy. Now can we
get back to discussing cosmology, you don't seem to understand that
very well. You do know astronomy and cosmology are not the same thing?


>
> > that did not know how referentials within infinite
>> space are manufactured.
>
>Mrs God crochets them in here spare time.. B^D

As long as they are arbitrary and based upon the observer then that
works in cosmology. Cosmology is fun.