How long does it take to restore your files from a back-up?

If you work for the IRS apparently it is a procedure that takes longer than 6 months.

 

But it takes them 3 years to find out they needed to backup.

 

They should have stuck with the old paper method of storing files if they were trying to hide them. That way, they could have shredded their documents like Hillary did when she worked at Rose Law Firm.

 

Let’s talk about missing emails
06/20/14 03:54 PM—UPDATED 06/20/14 03:57 PM

By Steve Benen
It was a year ago this week that the IRS “scandal” began to unravel into nothing. After the controversy got off to a tantalizing start in the spring of 2013, we learned on June 24 of last year that the IRS was bipartisan in its “targeting” of tax-exempt groups on both sides. One by one, the allegations fell apart, and it was at that point that most of the political world lost interest and turned their attention to other Republican conspiracy theories.
But the right didn’t want to let this one go. They had such high hopes – and much of the media seemed so eager to play along with the “Nixonian” narrative – that Republicans just couldn’t move on, reality be damned.
And so here we are, a year later, with House GOP lawmakers still uninterested in actual governing, and still preoccupied with a “controversy” that doesn’t exist.
IRS Commissioner John Koskinen on Friday denied that his agency is covering up Lois Lerner’s emails, at one point flatly refusing to apologize to Republicans who accused him of stonewalling their investigation.


“I don’t think an apology is owed,” Koskinen said at a hearing of the House Ways and Means Committee.
The hearing quickly grew heated, with Republicans audibly gasping when Koskinen said that Lerner’s crashed hard drive – which kept her archived emails – had been “recycled and destroyed,” something the commissioner said was standard procedure.
Republicans are whining pretty loudly – and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)started to lose his cool for no particular reason at today’s hearing – but I suspect they realize how simple this is.
The IRS had six months of archives of Lerner emails, and the agency turned over everything it had. There was nothing that bolstered the broader conspiracy theory. Some emails, from before 2012, were lost due to a computer crash, and everything about that story is entirely plausible.
And yet, there was Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.), who’s career is ending on a sad and ignominious note, baselessly talking about “cover-ups” and Paul Ryan lecturing the IRS that “nobody believes” the claims that happen to be true.
Of course, this isn’t the first time a presidential administration has told an angry Congress that emails lawmakers wanted to read have been lost due to a technical glitch. Just for kicks, let’s revisit what happened the last time.
this one from 2007?

Millions of White House e-mails may be missing, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino acknowledged Friday.
“I wouldn’t rule out that there were a potential 5 million e-mails lost,” Perino told reporters.
The administration was already facing sharp questions about whether top presidential advisers including Karl Rove improperly used Republican National Committee e-mail that the White House said later disappeared.
The actual number of missing emails, we later learned, turned out to be 22 million.
At issue were a variety of Bush/Cheney scandals, including the firing of U.S. Attorneys who refused to politicize federal prosecutions before elections. To that end, the Republican White House failed to comply with subpoenas, claiming the emails had vanished because the administration failed to comply with the Presidential Records Act.
The Bush/Cheney spokesperson at the time, Dana Perino, told reporters at the time, “We screwed up.”
And what, pray tell, did Republicans say back then? Well, it’s a funny story.
A Democratic source passed along some quotes from Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) from a February 2008 hearing into the missing White House documents. “I think it’s fair that we recognize that software moves on and that archiving in a digital age is not as easy as it might seem to the public,” he said at the time. Issa added that Democratic complaints about the missing emails were “shameful.”

Again, this is not to say that the two administrations are equivalent, and that’s OK for one to lose emails and not the other. The difference is, there was credible evidence that the Bush White House had engaged in actual wrongdoing, raising the possibility that the missing emails included potentially incriminating evidence, all of which went missing under suspicious circumstances.
In contrast, no one has yet produced any evidence that the IRS “controversy” is real.​

 

So when Lerner's computer crashed - did the IRS give her a brand new one, just replace the hard drive in her old one or did she go 6 months or longer without one at all? What about all her Word files, spreadsheets, address books di she lose them also. It must have taken untold man hours to re-create and re-enter all that information. I am sure losing all her collection of selfie photobombs with Obama was truely devastating.

 

You speak as if a crime was committed and the proof was on her hard drive. What crime would you be referring to?

 

Crime? Who said anything about a crime?

 

Ways and Means Committee Refers Lois Lerner to Department of Justice for Criminal Prosecution
Letter details actions taken by Lerner to deprive groups of their rights, impede the investigation

Today, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp announced that the Committee, acting under its authority granted in Sec. 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code, voted out a criminal referral letter to Department of Justice (DOJ) Attorney General Eric Holder regarding actions taken by IRS employee Lois Lerner. Chairman Camp, in sending the letter on behalf of the Committee, urged Holder to take a serious review of the evidence uncovered through the Committee’s investigation to determine whether Lerner violated criminal statutes.

The Committee uncovered three specific acts undertaken by Lerner that may have violated one or more criminal statutes documented in the letter:

• Lerner used her position to improperly influence agency action against only conservative organizations, denying these groups due process and equal protection rights under the law. She showed extreme bias and prejudice towards conservative groups. The letter lays out evidence on how Lerner targeted conservative organization Crossroads GPS as well as other right-leaning groups, while turning a blind eye to similarly-organized liberal groups, like Priorities USA.
• Lerner impeded official investigations by providing misleading statements in response to questions from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).
• Lerner risked exposing, and may actually have disclosed, confidential taxpayer information, in apparent violation of Internal Revenue Code section 6103 by using her personal email to conduct official business.

If convicted of these crimes, Lerner could face up to 11 years in prison.
http://majorityleader.gov/blog/2014/04/lois-lerner-referred-to-doj-for-criminal-prosecution.html

 

Daily back-up of IRS computers was standard operating procedure. At the time of the Lerner's crash back-ups were required to be retained for 6 months.

 

Ooooooh, not good news for Lois Lerner. If the DOJ charges her and she's subsequently found guilty, we will be able to say that she broke the law. But not until then, of course. In the meantime, all we can do is ask if there are any IRS officials not currently under indictment or make unsubstantiated claims that she broke the law and the prosecutors have charged her as guilty (or some other brainless, idiotic statement that only a liberal would make).

 

Yep! She too the fifth because she was innocent, right?

 

Oh boy.

 

See post #8!

 

She took the fifth because... let's see... oh yeah! She broke the law! That's it! She's never been charged and there's never been a trial, but I'll just blurt this out: She broke the law!

That's going to be my new catchphrase, btw. I don't care if someone is guilty or not. I'm just going to say, "They broke the law"!