How the MSM estimates Crowd Size

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ImWithStupid, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Home - by BigFurHat - August 28, 2010 - 21:53 UTC - 1 Comment

    [​IMG]Barack Obamas Inauguration bajillillions of people


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    Million Man March Millions of people


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    ANSWER ANTI-WAR RALLY half a million people[​IMG]

    Clintons Inauguration 800,000 people

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    9/12 FreedomWorks Rally - a couple of thousand people



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    9/28 Restoring Honor Rally a few hundred people
     
  2. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    All that said, just like the reports from many conservative or tea party rallies, the Mall in Washington was left clean, unlike the rallies of the left...


    Video: National Mall Spotless After 300K Strong Glenn Beck Rally
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    Compare that to the supposed Mother Earth-loving libs, who left behind 100 tons of trash after Obamas inauguration
    The scene looked more like the leftovers of a massive college frat party.

    NBC News (via the NYT) estimated 300,000 people attended.

    http://weaselzippers...enn-beck-rally/
     
  3. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

  4. Bender

    Bender New Member

    How many would you suppose this is?

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    Divide by 300 million Americans, factor in the ones who couldn't make it?

    What HONEST percentage do you think it represents?

    Here's another one, Satellite photo of Obama inauguration

    Estimated 2,000,000 people

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  5. Bender

    Bender New Member

    At 2:01 in the video, how many would you guess?

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  6. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    That's a still picture inserted in the video. It only depicts a small portion of the area of the event. No way of knowing what time or even what day that pic was taken. No way of estimating the crowd from that. It's irrelevant.
     
  7. Bender

    Bender New Member

    What if you combined it with the scene at :14 seconds in?

    How about at 3:01 ?
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  8. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Again.


    That's a still picture inserted in the video. It only depicts a small portion of the area of the event. No way of knowing what time or even what day that pic was taken. No way of estimating the crowd from that. It's irrelevant.
     
  9. Bender

    Bender New Member

    This is funny:

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/29/glenn.beck.rally/index.html?hpt=T2

    Park Service officials have stopped giving crowd counts after previous controversies. But an estimate commissioned by CBS News, using aerial photography, put attendance at between 78,000 and 96,000. ABC News reported more than 100,000, while Fox -- and Beck -- estimated it at above half a million.
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  10. Bender

    Bender New Member

    Here's a TO SCALE rendition

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    The top one represents the Obama inauguration crowd of an estimated 2 million.

    It went from The White House, all the way to the Washington monument.

    Beck's shindig Went from the Lincoln Memorial and stopped a little ways after the reflecting pool before the road.

    So, I'm guessing maybe 1/3 the size of the Obama inauguration?

    Doing the math, and using THAT as the guideline, I'd honestly have to guestimate about 600,000

    Divided by 300,000,000 Americans that equals about

    .002% of the population

    Wow, so THAT'S what a majority of Americans looks like.
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  11. ImWithStupid

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  12. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Not sure what you're trying to say. My point was the absurd skew the media estimates crowd size, by perceived ideology.

    As far as guessing the size of Beck's crowd. I'd guess it half of what you did, at around 300,000. That said. I'd also guess the crowd at Barry's inauguration is about half the 2 mil number that gets thrown around.
     
  13. Bender

    Bender New Member

    I'm not saying I disagree with you about the reported numbers, I'm just trying to put a comparison on some of these numbers. And you may be right, Obama may have been more like a million and this may have been about 300,000.

    But then, it is said WOODSTOCK had, from what I have been reading, anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000

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    So if THAT is true, can we REALLY say 300,000 (conservative estimate) HERE as well?

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    I'm not sure quite honestly.

    Michigan Stadium, holds 150,000

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  14. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Don'y forget the trees Bender. There are people packed under the trees, Based on what I have heard of non-political groups (I think anyone trying to lie and say it was under 100,000 are clearly showing they are no longer a new group and are instead progressive activists) there was between 400 to 500 thousand people there. Not a bad turnout considering Bech is not running for a political office and this was not even geared or advertised as a political event.

    Of cours they were also just a bunch of racists.....right Bender?
     

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