If dog fighting is sooo bad (that you can go to jail for it)...

:hail: :hail:

 

they should not be packed into tight cages
they experience the world largely with their beaks (it is like cutting off your hands)

 

"humans are healthier if they consume protein." not in the quantities that Americans eat (though some protein is needed).

 

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Settle down young man, when you grow up, you will know when you'r having your leg pulled! edited

 

If you had ever lived in the country, you would know that chickens do this without being confined in tight places. It's just the nature of chickens to pick the feathers from each other, sometine to extreams.

 

It's to the advantage of the collectivist leadership around the world to have a weak and sickly population. Makes them easier to rule.

 

Thank you, Chairman Mao.

 

Brute strength vs intelligence. Depends upon which you would prefer to have.

 

That we consume animals is indeed not the problem. The problem is that our meat enriched brains have allowed us to not have to compete for food and allowed us an over abundance of it.

 

Sorry to tell ya dan, my family has had chickens and a chicken coop. No way I or ANY good person would do this stuff:
Chickens Raised for Meat
More than 9 billion chickens are raised and killed for meat each year in the United States.(2) The industry refers to these chickens as “broilers” and raises them in huge, ammonia-filled, windowless sheds, where artificial lighting is manipulated to make birds eat as often as possible.(3)

To keep up with demand and reduce production costs, genetic selection and a steady dose of growth-promoting drugs are used to ensure large, fast-growing birds. Today, most chicks take only six to seven weeks to reach “processing” weight, and chickens raised for meat weigh an average of one-fifth more than those raised in the 1950s.(4) The shift in consumer habits—from eating whole chickens to chicken parts—has encouraged the industry to raise birds with “thicker breast, fatter wings and chubbier drumsticks,” according to the Associated Press.(5) Skeletal problems are common among these birds, and many die from ascites, a disease that causes heart failure when, according to one physiologist, the birds’ “hearts and lungs have to work harder to keep up with the rapid rate of growth, and they just can’t do it.”(6,7)

Chickens Raised for Their Eggs
More than 285 million hens are raised for eggs in the U.S., and nearly all of them spend their lives in battery cages, stacked tier upon tier in huge warehouses.(8 )Confined seven or eight to a cage, these birds don’t have enough room to turn around or even spread one wing. Each year, millions of day-old male chicks are killed—usually in high-speed grinders called “macerators,” which shred them alive—because they are worthless to the egg industry.(9,10)

To prevent stress-induced behaviors caused by extreme crowding, such as pecking cagemates to death, hens are kept in semi-darkness, and the ends of their sensitive beaks are cut off with a hot blade—no painkillers are administered during this painful process.(11) The wire mesh of the cages rubs against their skin, making it raw, and causes their feet to become crippled. Farmers induce greater egg production through “forced molting”—shocking hens’ bodies into another egg-laying cycle by starving them for days and keeping them in the dark, a stressful situation that causes them to lose feathers and weight.(12)

Broken bones are also common among these birds, who “suffer significant osteoporosis,” according to the International Veterinary Information Service.(13) A study published in Poultry Science explained that “high production hens’ structural bone is mobilized throughout the laying period in order to contribute to the formation of eggshell.”(14)

Although chickens can live for more than a decade, hens raised for their eggs are exhausted, and their egg production begins to wane when they are about 2 years old.(15,16) When this happens, they are slaughtered. More than 100 million “spent” hens are killed in slaughterhouses each year.(17)

Slaughter
The lives of chickens raised for meat and eggs end with a grueling trip to the slaughterhouse. Before the terrifying journey, chickens are caught by workers and placed in crates. One reporter at a Delmarva chicken farm described the “catching” process as “a half-dozen men … grabbing [chickens] by their feet, shoving them into the drawers of 6-foot high crates. The men can catch more than 6,000 birds in an hour.”(18) One industry study of catching practices concluded that “[t]he number of freshly broken bones found in live birds prior to slaughter and the number of old healed breaks found at slaughter are unacceptably high.”(19)

After they reach the slaughterhouse, the birds are dumped out of their crates and hung upside-down in shackles, further injuring their legs, which are already tender and often broken. Their throats are slit by machines, and they are immersed in scalding-hot water for feather removal. They are often conscious throughout the entire process. Often, because their bones are so brittle from egg production that the electric current would cause them to shatter, hens are not even stunned before their throats are slit.(20)

You can read poultry-worker whistleblower statements about catching and slaughter at GoVeg.com.

Antibiotics Lead to Drug-Resistant Bacteria, Human Illnesses
this one is a BIG deal
Factory farms simply cannot raise billions of animals per year without using drugs that allow the animals to survive cramped and unhealthy conditions that would otherwise kill them. Millions of pounds of antibiotics are fed to chickens, who metabolize only about 20 percent of the drugs fed to them: The remaining 80 percent end up in their feces.(21) The 3 trillion pounds of waste produced by factory-farmed animals each year are usually used to fertilize crops and subsequently end up leaching into waterways—along with the drugs and bacteria that they contain.(22)

Environmental and human health problems are developing as a result of this unchecked use of antibiotics. A U.S. geological study found 14 antibiotics used in animal agriculture and human medicine in almost 50 percent of the waterways tested.(23)

One scientist examined poultry workers’ health and found that more than 40 percent of the test subjects were infected with campylobacter and that the bacteria were “supersized” and resistant to antibiotics. She remarked, “There have been a lot of stupid things we’ve done as a species … but this (giving animals antibiotics) has to be one of the most stupid.”(24) A Consumer Reports study of 525 supermarket chickens found campylobacter in 81 percent of them and salmonella in 15 percent; up to 84 percent of the bacteria were resistant to antibiotics.(25)

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that there are 76 million instances of foodborne illness and more than 5,000 food-related deaths annually in the U.S.(26) Eggs with salmonella pose a threat to one out of every 50 people each year.(27)

In addition to their toxic effects on the human body, meat, eggs, and dairy products contain large amounts of harmful substances such as cholesterol, saturated fats, and concentrated protein. For example, one large egg contains more than 200 milligrams of cholesterol, and chicken flesh contains the same amount of cholesterol as beef.(28,29,30)

 

I agree that chickens are strange animals. One of their behaviors that astonished me was that the little banty roosters would rule the barn yard.

The following description is to educate our city dweller friends about chicken biology to prep them for the joke. When a chicken deficates there is a little white dot of stuff on top of the brown mass.

Old farmer joke: What is the white stuff on top of chicken poop?

 

I 'support' it in the same way I 'support' big oil by driving my car. I 'support' it in the same way I 'support' deforestation by reading a book or buying my son a guitar or buying furniture for my home. I 'support' it the same way I 'support' polluting the environment by using my computer. I 'support' it in the same way I 'support' sweatshops by buying imported goods. I 'support' it in the same way I 'support' obesity by buying a twinkie. And on and on.

 

More chicken poop!

 

I bet they know that joke in china, it is so old. Old farmer joke: Why does the sheep herder wear tall boots?

 

With Doug watching this forum, I double dare you to finish this one!

 

Old Dan you must be a farmer!
Late entry but since I have been double dared. As farmers we were in real close contact with the animals. I never saw any witness of bestality but we all joked about it. The reason that a sheep herder wears tall boots is because when he backs the ewe in heat in the corner, then he can put the hind legs of the ewe in his boots and she can't get away. I got more of them.

 

I think there are plenty who are not farmers that know that sick joke I will say this about it though - it serves as proof that you guys can say what you want as long as you say it in the proper manner.

There may be hope after all.

 

I got a good Pat and Mike joke too concerning hogs.

Pat and Mike were walking down a country lane. When they came upon a already harvested corn field while the sows were rooting and in heat, a sow was rubbing her doodad against a fence post. Pat says to Mike don't you wish that was Gina Lolabrigidia and Mike said, Don't you wish it was ?


Answer: Dark

 

At first I thought you were going to tell a dirty joke about pigs, but guess not. So I'll ask if you want to hear a dirty story that relates to pigs?


Answwer: They fell in the mud!:whistle:

 

Thats funny, Ha Ha Ha.