Is Obama lying AGAIN???

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    LOL yep I love Hockey

    And for those of you who are familiar with it, here are some names all Black or mixed race past and present players. I have refrained from naming those of colour who play the game in Europe as I doubt if many of you would have heard of them LOL

    Forwards
    Donald Brashear Montreal Canadiens, Vancouver Canucks, Philadelphia Flyers, Washington Capitals, New York Rangers
    Dustin Byfuglien Chicago Blackhawks
    Nigel Dawes New York Rangers, Phoenix Coyotes, Calgary Flames
    Robbie Earl Minnesota Wild affiliate
    Mike Grier Edmonton Oilers, Washington Capitals, Buffalo Sabres, San Jose Sharks
    Jarome Iginla Calgary Flames
    Evander Kane, Atlanta Thrashers
    Georges Laraque Edmonton Oilers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Phoenix Coyotes, Montreal Canadiens
    Jamal Mayers St. Louis Blues, Toronto Maple Leafs
    Greg Mauldin Columbus Blue Jackets, Ottawa Senators affiliate, New York Islanders
    Kenndal McArdle Florida Panthers affiliate
    Kyle Okposo New York Islanders
    Wayne Simmonds Los Angeles Kings
    Anthony Stewart Florida Panthers, Atlanta Thrashers
    Chris Stewart Colorado Avalanche
    Joel Ward Nashville Predators

    Defensemen
    Shawn Belle Minnesota Wild, Montreal Canadiens affiliate
    Francis Bouillon Montreal Canadiens, Nashville Predators
    Trevor Daley Dallas Stars
    Mark Fraser New Jersey Devils affiliate
    Derek Joslin San Jose Sharks
    Johnny Oduya Kenyan[14]: New Jersey Devils
    Theo Peckham Edmonton Oilers affiliate
    Bryce Salvador St. Louis Blues, New Jersey Devils

    Goaltenders
    Chris Beckford-Tseu St. Louis Blues, Florida Panthers
    Ray Emery Ottawa Senators, Philadelphia Flyers


    Retired or no longer playing with a NHL affiliate team.

    Forwards
    Darren Banks Boston Bruins
    Anson Carter Boston Bruins, Washington Capitals, Edmonton Oilers, New York Rangers, Los Angeles Kings, Carolina Hurricanes, Vancouver Canucks, Columbus Blue Jackets
    John Craighead Toronto Maple Leafs
    Dale Craigwell San Jose Sharks
    Steven Fletcher Montreal Canadiens, Winnipeg Jets
    Dirk Graham Minnesota North Stars, Chicago Blackhawks
    Val James Buffalo Sabres, Toronto Maple Leafs
    Brian Johnson Detroit Red Wings
    Nathan LaFayette Louis Blues, Vancouver Canucks, New York Rangers, Los Angeles Kings
    Darren Lowe Pittsburgh Penguins
    Mike Marson Washington Capitals, Los Angeles Kings
    Craig Martin Winnipeg Jets, Florida Panthers
    Sandy McCarthy Calgary Flames, Tampa Bay Lightning, Philadelphia Flyers, Carolina Hurricanes, New York Rangers, Boston Bruins
    Mike McHugh Minnesota North Stars, San Jose Sharks
    Tony McKegney Buffalo Sabres, Quebec Nordiques, Minnesota North Stars, New York Rangers, St. Louis Blues, Detroit Red Wings, Chicago Blackhawks
    Sean McMorrow Buffalo Sabres
    Ray Neufeld Hartford Whalers, Winnipeg Jets, Boston Bruins
    Willie O'Ree first black player in NHL Boston Bruins
    Bill Riley Washington Capitals, Winnipeg Jets
    Nathan Robinson Detroit Red Wings, Boston Bruins
    Bernie Saunders Quebec Nordiques
    Reggie Savage Washington Capitals, Quebec Nordiques
    Graeme Townshend Boston Bruins, New York Islanders, Ottawa Senators
    Claude Vilgrain Vancouver Canucks, New Jersey Devils, Philadelphia Flyers
    Peter Worrell Florida Panthers, Colorado Avalanche

    Defensemen
    Sean Brown Edmonton Oilers, Boston Bruins, New Jersey Devils, Vancouver Canucks
    Jason Doig Winnipeg Jets, Phoenix Coyotes, New York Rangers, Washington Capitals
    Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre Buffalo Sabres, Columbus Blue Jackets, Washington Capitals, Atlanta Thrashers
    Paul Jerrard Minnesota North Stars
    Rumun Ndur Buffalo Sabres, New York Rangers, Atlanta Thrashers

    Goaltenders
    Fred Brathwaite Edmonton Oilers, Calgary Flames, St. Louis Blues, Columbus Blue Jackets
    Gerald Coleman Tampa Bay Lightning
    Grant Fuhr First black player inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame Edmonton Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres, Los Angeles Kings, St. Louis Blues, Calgary Flames
    Joaquin Gage Edmonton Oilers
    Tyrone Garner Calgary Flames
    Pokey Reddick Winnipeg Jets, Edmonton Oilers, Florida Panthers
    Kevin Weekes Florida Panthers, Vancouver Canucks, New York Islanders, Tampa Bay Lightining, Carolina Hurricanes, New York Rangers, New Jersey Devils

    Now the list of players of Asian descent is smaller but includes some rather famous players

    Paul Kariya
    Jamie Storr (now playing in Europe I believe)
    Steve Kariya (playing in Finland)
    Peter Ing Jewish-Chinese :D
    Robin Bawa Indian

    I can add more if you want LOL

    Some Latino descent player :eek:

    Scott Gomez
    Bill Guerin
    Raymond Macias
    Al Montoya
    Raffi Torres

    Lets not forget our Arab contingent

    Justin Abdelkader
    Ramzi Abid
    Alain Nasreddine
    John Hanna
    Ed Hatoum


    Hell yep we are racist we allow any race to play LOL
     
  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You've noticed these players are black? Well you MUST be a racist!
     
  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Yep David I also noticed that some are Latino and others Asian or Arabic my god I realy must be a racist to have spotted that, should I start to wear a white sheet and go to Klan meetings!
     
  4. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Here's a question for the group:

    If Limbaugh had called McNabb "a typical black quarterback" (regardless of context) would you consider that to be racist comment?
     
  5. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Wow! When did the NHL get so enlightened? There are almost enough non-whitey current players there to make half an NFL team! lol

    Nope, NHL and NASCAR fans are all racists. It is just the way things are. Sorry. ;) :D
     
  6. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Pouting and Crying (looking at you Tim Tebow) are not qualities I want in a QB. Cutler has never been a winner and I think it shows. His attitude, as much as his play, has been a cancer to the team. I hope it changes but he has a lot of maturing to do before he can even carry McNaab's jockstrap (to paraphrase Larry Holmes).
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    Think you better stick to criticizing Cutler, Tim Tebow has as much heart and competitive determination as I have ever seen in an athlete. If you were hoping that a big arm quarterback was going to be the savior of the Bears franchise, disappointment was inevitable. The Bears need to get back to what they do best, defense, plain and simple.
     
  8. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    I have been a Bears fan all of my life Lehigh. Back to the days of Butkus and company and, YES, defense is their forte as well as a run game. Question is - how many Superbowls has that won them?

    I agree Cutler is not the answer although he could be a pivotal piece to the puzzle.

    The Bears lack BALANCE and have basically forever. It's great to hold opponents to 6 points a game or so but if you only score 3 it still comes out as a loss. Been watching that all of my life and they can't even do that now.

    Two reasons I watch hockey. First, I LOVE the game and have followed the Hawks all of my life. SECOND, is they are actually doing something to make a run of it. I will NOT say this about the Bears.
     
  9. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    I think it would be considered racist to those that find it offensive, regardless of it's intent. Far as the intent..that phrase, in that particular arrangement of words, is also racist. What's 'typical black' mean if it isn't racially slanted? Those in public arenas should be especially aware of that.
    Another brilliant observation there Davey.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well genius, the reason I asked that question (and most here were sharp enough to pick up on it) is that Mmm Mmm Mmm BO was widely quoted, during the campaign, as referring to his grandmother (the one that raised him & paid his though college, by the way) as a "typical white woman".
    So.......?
     
  11. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Well, he has seemed that way when things were going good. Crying on the sidelines when you lose (and you aren't like 10 years old) is not exactly confidence inspiring in a leader.


    Defense and a running back along with a QB who won't lose the game for you and might win a few here and there, a receiver or two and a coach who seems to care what he score is. All those things might help.

    And, yes, I have been a Bears fan since I was a wee one.
     
  12. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    And they tell me to keep on topic:rolleyes:
     
  13. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Not me. These threads wander everywhere after their initial life is past. Rush, Hockey, Racism, Football...

    I mean, come on...how many pages can we debate Is Obama lying AGAIN??? He's a politician...of course he is lying! It takes less than a page to figure that one out. If a politician's lips are moving...he is lying. lol

    Now back to the football discussion. ;)
     
  14. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    So.......? The simple answer is that whites weren't enslaved as a race, so they really can't accurately comment on that experience, nor can they understand what the aftermath has meant to a race of people. They haven't had to be black. Different words have different connotations to different people, and yes, different races of people. So for someone whose race is a part of a formerly enslaved one, and in this particular case, to comment about a "typical white woman", raising him and other positive aspects, it infers that not all whites are as "typically" and as inherintly as bad as many past generations have experienced or have been told. That's a positive there Jethro. I've said before racism exists in everyone. It's a photograph of that individual's life experiences. It's a matter of reshaping those negative beliefs in a POSITIVE way. Acknowledging and addressing it is a positive thing, not the negative one you are trying to instigate. But that's ok....pretty typical.
     
  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    What? Does this idiotic blithering make sense to anyone?

    I simply asked you if the phrase "typical black quarterback" was racist regardless of context. You said it was. Why,then, isn't "typical white woman" as muttered by Mmm Mmm Mmm BO not racist as well? Wait, I'll answer- it is racist. Blatantly racist. Racist in any context.
     
  16. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I wonder. If we traced out President's ancestors out for 200 or 300 years, I wonder if we would find more of his ancestors who were owned as slaves or that more of them owned slaves. I am betting the latter.
     
  17. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Do "typical white women" generally raise black grand children to become the President of The United States of America?

    I think the President was wrong on this one or he really has an extremely high regard of "typical white women".
     
  18. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    If you say so Soupy.
     
  19. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary


    I'll go with wrong on this one. The only person Mmm Mmm Mmm BO has an extremely high regard for is Mmm Mmm Mmm BO.
     
  20. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    You're a great American. Dittos.
     

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