It is just funny that the Right-wing never tires of being wrong

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    Republicans Blasted Obama Administration For Warning About Right-Wing Domestic Terrorism
    By Annie-Rose Strasser on Aug 7, 2012 at 10:25 am

    The gunman in the shooting at a Sikh temple over the weekend has been labeled a potential domestic terrorist — defined as one who incites politically-motivated violence against his or her own country. In Wade Michael Page’s case, that political motivation was likely white supremacy, a growing problem in the United States.

    But when, in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security reported that white supremacy is the US’s biggest threat for domestic terror, it was met with harsh criticism. Conservatives blasted the department for defining terror threats too broadly, instead of focusing on potential Islamic terrorists. Then-House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) was one of those who berated DHS, saying that they weren’t focusing on the real threats the US faces:

    [T]he Secretary of Homeland Security owes the American people an explanation for why she has abandoned using the term ‘terrorist’ to describe those, such as al Qaeda, who are plotting overseas to kill innocent Americans, while her own Department is using the same term to describe American citizens who disagree with the direction Washington Democrats are taking our nation. Everyone agrees that the Department should be focused on protecting America, but using such broad-based generalizations about the American people is simply outrageous.

    The report was titled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment,” and it named white supremacists, radical anti-abortionists, and a few “disgruntled veterans” as most susceptible to recruitment by extremist groups, or to harboring resentment that may lead to domestic terrorism. DHS stressed that, during recessions, these threats go up, and law enforcement should be on the lookout for such extremism:

    DHS/I&A has concluded that white supremacist lone wolves pose the most significant domestic terrorist threat because of their low profile and autonomy—separate from any formalized group—which hampers warning efforts..[...]

    Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities.

    The report’s findings were congruous with previous studies that indicate right wing extremism is responsible for more instances of violence every year (with the exception of 2001, when the September 11th attacks happened) in the United States than Islamic extremist. It also tracks with the rise of hate groups in the US since 2000.

    Sec. Janet Napolitano ended up withdrawing the report and apologizing to veterans who felt they’d been called out, stressing that the threat was limited to a very small number of veterans.

    Page, the Sikh temple shooter, was one of these veterans. According to Oak Creek, Wisconsin law enforcement, he served in the army from 1992 to 1998. He was administratively discharged in 1998, and had a known “patterns of misconduct.” After leaving the service, he was arrested twice, once for a DUI and once for criminal mischief — both in the 1990s.

    The gunman had also been tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center for around a decade because of his ties to white supremacy groups. While he apparently “popped up” on the FBI’s radar about six years ago, it seems they had no active investigation.
     
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    Who said the guy was "right wing"? You? There's much more violent rhetoric coming from left-wing radical nuts like you such as when you advocated burning down the State House in Wisconsin and advocated violence in the streets of same. Janet Napolitano should put you on her watch list (if you're not already on there, that is) if she's trying to keep America safe. Violence-espousing radicals like you honestly scare me.
     
  3. JoeNation
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    Ha ha ha ha ha!

    You again try to head for the border of reality. I never said a thing about any guy being a Right-winger...at any point....ever in this thread but that didn't stop you from assuming it anyway. Why am I shocked?

    The point of the thread is that in 2009 the Right-wingers in this country were all over the FBI report that outlined the threat posed by these domestic terrorists including John "Boner" and of course Fox News but when you look back at the violence we've experienced in the last couple of years, it is exactly what the FBI predicted and the Right-wingers in this country went nuts over. Of course, you guys were wrong again. Big surprise!

    Was this guy in WI a Right-wing extremist? Oh yeah!
     
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    Hey, Ding Dong! I didn't say YOU said he was right-wing. I asked you who said it. And then I asked if you were saying he was right-wing. Obviously, you DON'T think he's right-wing.
     
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    OK. So, you don't think he's right-wing. Thank you.
     
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    Just to pick a few (there were many more), I love how they just pick out of thin air that these persons were right wing - as opposed to left wing or, more likely, just plain bonkers.
     
  8. JoeNation
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    By definition, a skinhead, hate metal band member, Neo-Nazi is Right-wing.
     
  9. JoeNation
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    So glad that you could find 3 that you could object to out the 100 plus incidences listed. Way to set the bar low.
     
  10. JoeNation
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    Have you both forgotten the Right-wing establisnment deriding the FBI report and of course you siding with them? Or have you already rewritten the history in your own heads?

    Don't worry, expecting you guys to admit something like this isn't really realistic. You just don't have the kind of integrity.
     
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    Mmm.. no..... but, now that you've mentioned "neo-Nazi" you're definitely talking about Socialists. Definitely not right-wing. But, thanks for trying to participate.

    right wing |ˈˌraɪt ˈˌwɪŋ|noun (the right wing)
    1 the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system.

    [with reference to the National Assembly in France (1789–91), where the nobles sat to the president's right and the commons to the left.]
    2 the right side of a team on the field in soccer, rugby, and field hockey.• the right side of an army.adjective (right-wing)conservative or reactionary: a right-wing Republican senator.DERIVATIVESright-winger noun
     
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    Uhmmmm? Mathematically challenged again I see. There are less than 100 listed.

    Notice I said "Just to pick a few (there were many more)" previously. Just guessing, about 1/2 of those listed fall into that category.

    BTW, I am willing to bet there were more incidents than that at just the Oakland OWS protests. And here are a couple more for you.



     
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    Bravo, RLM! The Occupiers are definitely violent, domestic terrorists, but they're a group to which the lefties turn a blind eye.
     
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    The Nazi party was racially charged nationistic socialist movement in Germany. The guy who did the shooting most likely could not understand political end of Hilter but sure enough did have that leftist zero tolerance that in the nazi case is based upon ethnic and religious basis.

    When I first came to Cointalk long before this forum exisited I advocated that nazi coins, as well as flags, etc should not be sold and be against the law as in Germany for it only encourages those of small minds to do great harm and I had some very angry responses ranging from those that could be debated concerning history to those that were just hateful or please excuse the expression stupid.
     
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    In spite of your opinion, these groups/individuals are Right wingers especially those belonging to militias, white separatist groups, and the skinheads.

    None of their values are from the Left. In fact, they actively dislike, target, and rail against liberals. That pretty much makes them right-wing no matter how you choose to rewrite the history of the Nazis from last century.
     
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    Seems like a lot of guessing and betting but no proof maybe because that is exactly what you're doing.
     
  17. JoeNation
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    Just reiterating...
     
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    Guessing? Yeah, there are 98 - and that even includes one listed twice. That is not a guess, but "100 plus incidences listed" was not only a guess, but an erroneous guess.
    No proof? I am glad to see you actually agree with my point. Your list contains no proof on many of their "incidences".
     
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    White supremacists, radical anti-abortionists, disgruntled veterans...the Republican base lol

    Ok, maybe not the base, but all three certainly are part of the party...whether the party likes it or not. The Democrats have those anti-whale-hunting people, and don't exactly love it either lol
     
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    And they hate lib-rals . Either the clowns here are too dumb to know that these groups are part of their political cadre or they are too cowardly to admit it. Stupid or cowardly? Take your pick.
     

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