Kuwaiti: 'The terrorist Katrina' is a soldier of Allah'

Exactly Moen. Now you know how I feel about your finger-pointing posts. Whenever I refer to these terrorists as Muslims you and a few others are always right there to accuse me of hating ALL Muslims. In my posts I always tried to make it obvious by always referring to the "terrorist muslims" and I know that I posted that I didn't consider all muslims as evil, Hell, I even have a good friend who happens to be Muslim. Several times I asked if the terrorists were Muslim, a simple question, and not once did I get an simple YES or NO, just more verbal attacks, accusations, and stereotyping. Why do Muslims and their supporters refuse to admit that the TERRORISTS are muslim and fighting this holy war in the name of Allah. Let me emphasis my opinion one more time, and please understand what I am saying. The TERRORISTS (who just happen to be Muslim) are my enemy! I do not hate ALL Muslims, I hate the TERRORISTS who believe by killing me they are guaranteed a place with Allah (never knew I was so important a target). My enemy are the TERRORISTS that explode bombs in crowded markets, streets or temples not caring who they kill as long as it's a large body count.

Remember, this is not a conventional war. The enemy are not wearing uniforms to distinguish them as an army and seperate them from the innocent. Instead these cowardly murderer's blend in with the crowd, look exactly like their innocent countrymen and recruit followers of any sex or age to kill in the name of the holy war. Ask just about any front-line Vietnam vet and they can probably relate to this tactic. It is just hard to trust and forgive when you don't know who to trust or forgive. Think about it, I just saw it this weekend, a Muslim can freely walk around in the U.S., go to work and safely go home afterwards. Could an un-escorted American do the same safely in Fallujah or most any Iraqi city today?

Murderous TERRORISTS (Muslim or any other) are the enemy of the free world. Midas stated it best when he called these terrorists a "Cancer". And as with any cancer, you need to act fast and eliminate the desease or eventually it will eliminate you.

 

Very true and very well written.

 

I can't and haven't disagreed with anything you've written. Well written response. My only problem is with those that see ALL Muslims as terrorists without differentiating a Muslim from a Muslim terrorist. Many and I mean many Muslim resent the Hijacking of their religion for the purpose of terrorism. At the same time, would you stand up in the middle of all these crazies and vocalize it? You'd get your butt shot off.
It not that the average Muslim supports the violence, it's more that he doesn't want the voilence to come to his house. They don't hesitate to kill one another if you've noticed.

 

Indeed that is true. I had it explained to me by a professor this way: We have "equality of opportunity" in America, not pure, Karl Marxist equality. Everyone who comes to America has the opportunity to succeed and become wealthy and educated and whatever, but unfortunately, not all either take advantage of this system or get to take advantage of this system.

Wow, lawdog.... that is an amazing quote right there. Are you a writer by profession? That sounds like something that a political speechwriter would use!

~AJ

 

I made a post about the killing and raping of Christians in the Sudan by the Muslim North.

Here is a brief posting about the killing of Catholics for not wanting to be part of a muslim nation and muslim itse"

"In many cases, whole village populations were targeted for savage atrocities -- most massively, in the region of Aitana in July 1981, where "a ghastly massacre occurred ... They murdered everyone, from tiny babies to the elderly, unarmed people who were not involved in the fighting but were there simply because they had stayed with Fretilin and wanted to live freely in the mountains." Perhaps 10,000 people died. (Source cited in Taylor, p. 118). At Lacluta near Dili in September of the same year, "at least 400 people were killed, mostly women and children." (Taylor, p. 101.) And at Malim Luro in August 1983, "after plundering the population of all their belongings, [Indonesian troops] firmly tied up men, women and children, numbering more than sixty people. They made them lie on the ground and then drove a bulldozer over them, and then used it to place a few centimetres of earth on top of the totally crushed corpses."

Just type in East Timor killings and dozens of sources will pop out.

 

Here is a small report by the BBC of only one muslim raid upon a non-muslim village. The report was made March 2005.

"The Ethiopian army has been killing, raping and torturing people in the western Gambella region since the end of 2003, Human Rights Watch says.
It says some 425 Anuak people were killed after an alleged ambush by Anuak gunmen on a government vehicle.

The army carried out the human rights violations under the guise of combating Anuak bandits, the organisation says.

Ethiopia's Information Minister Bereket Simon has rejected the claims, calling them a "blatant lie".

"We don't accept such recriminations. We don't believe this is a crime against humanity," Mr Simon told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme.

Government investigations had revealed that 65 people were killed in December 2003 in violence between local ethnic Anuaks and highlanders, in which the army had remained neutral, he said.

'Soldiers shooting'

The HRW report says: "The prevailing climate of impunity that now exists in Gambella has allowed ENDF (Ethiopia National Defence Forces) soldiers to prey upon and terrorise the Anuak communities they patrol."

A three-day rampage followed the ambush in December 2003 in which local Anuak people were killed, raped and mobs burned down more than 400 houses."

Islam is at war with the non-muslim world. That is why it is one of the fastest growing religions. They are killing the competition or scaring it to follow the faith. Of course Europeans not having kids anymore plays right into what they want as well.

 

Wait, I'm confused... are you saying that the Ethiopian Army is made up of Muslims, or am I just missing something?

 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
-- Robert A. Heinlein

 

"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
Bertrand Russell

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"Men will wrangle for religion; write for it; fight for it; die for it; anything but--live for it."
Charles Caleb Colton

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"There never was a good war, or a bad peace."
Benjamin Franklin

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"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."
Jack Handey

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There certainly are a lot of deep thoughts out there. Too bad you'll never have one.

 

I knew when I started this thread, you will see the true colors of the participants. As I told you, I will NOT apologize to anyone how I feel about the "religion of peace". With that said, I will agree that NOT all mulsims are terrorists. If you look at the actions of these people along with poll studies asking fellow mulsims if they agree or disagree with the jihad going on, you basically have 4 groups within the mulsim community:

1.) Terrorist mulsims that want to eliminate and kill all non-mulsims
2.) Moderate mulsims that want to kill and elminate primarily Jews
3.) Regular mulsims that have not committed any physical acts of violence against non-mulsims, but harbor, support, and defend the actions of #1 and #2.
4.) Peaceful and law abiding mulsims that want nothing to do with #1, #2 and #3.

So I will agree, not all mulsims are #1 and #2, but there are many polls (Gallop, USA Today, etc.) that show a huge population of #3 (millions and millions).

Good luck to the #4 mulsim group because the #1 mulsim group is going after you too!

Here's to the next generation of islamic terrorists in training. How sweet to see an islamic terrorist father teaching his son about what to be when he grows up. Isn't he cute? Its not just the boys. "Peaceful" loving young girls are in training too. How 'sugar and spice' of them!!

I can see conversation at the breakfast table. "Mohammad...make sure you come straight home after soccer practice". "I can't Mother...I have jihad classes tonight and today we learn about how to take apart and put back together an AK-47!!" "Oh...I forgot sweetheart...prase allah!"

That's why when you cut a weed, you have to destroy the root too...otherwise the weed grows back.

 

You are exactly right Midas. Maybe that's why more Muslims don't stand up and condem group #1. They have to live with them and they aren't willing to get themselves killed to make Americans feel better about their religion.

 

Thanks for the props AJ, but you might laugh at how long it took me to put together my last post....about an hour

 

Well...well...there lies the problem. If you believe there are more of the #4 group, then they need to take ACTION against their own...NOW! After all, according to the likes of you, they should have numbers on their side. Otherwise, they will suffer the same fate as the German and Japanese "innocent" during World War II. If the enemy plans on hiding behind the likes of group #4, then group #4 will suffer because of the actions of groups #1, #2 and #3. The #4 group needs to do the right thing and step up to the plate.

From what I have read and looking at the all of these poll results, the #3 groups appears to be much larger than the other 3 groups...and a much larger than group #4. That compounds the problem and the perception of the "religion of peace" further!

 

I nor anyone else really knows the extent of the people in one group or another( Your groups are not mutually exclusive either ). And if anyone says that they do, they are most proabably advocating for one position or another.
My point was that they really have no incentive to get their butts shot off. They are for the most part poor, uneducated, third worlders that probably don't have any concept of "doing the right thing". So they should die for this? It seem like you attribute them with our value system. That's typical American ethnocentrism.

 

Your statement is no less ethnocentric. It sounds like your stating that if people are from a 3rd world nations, are for the most part dumb, dirty, and have no notion of knowing right from wrong.

The concept of right and wrong is intrinsic to humanity. A perfect example is China's Tienamen revolt. Why would people revolt against a government that has had total information control for nearly 3 generations. Simple, because human beings KNOW right from wrong.

 

While this may be true, it's a greater shame that a blithering idiot like yourself isn't smart ennogh to understand and learn from a few of these thoughts.

 

Saying that people in the third world are uneducated, poor, and don't have the American value system is by no means saying they are dumb, dirty, and morally indefensible. If you were trying to paraphrase my comments, you did a pretty bad job of it. And, even if I had said those things, it wouldn't be ethnocentric, it would be stereotyping.

I have been to East Africa and the Caribbean and many of the less touristy parts of Southern Europe and North Africa. Please don't try and tell me what the third world is or isn't like. The concept of a U.S. style middle class isn't even a dream for most of the people in the third world. The vast majority is poor, with little to no education and right from wrong determines whether they eat that day or not. Not which political agenda they should adhere to make us Americans happy.

Please try to stick to what it is that I've actually written and not to what you believe you read.

 

First thing. IT SOUNDS LIKE has a completely different meaning in English than YOU ARE STATING. My statement was written as such, and with intent.

By lambasting me and couching it all with terms such as "American value system" and "U.S style middle class", you have proven my point. You are no less ethnocentric than you accuse Midas of being. READ what I wrote. Do you see ANYTHING about America???? Or did you blatant anger and emotion with this issue blind you to rest of what is written? My point is and will remain that your statement SOUNDS like you view "most" 3rd world people as incapable of discerning right from wrong. That is indeed stereotyping. Your insistence on putting it in the terms previously quoted moves your statements squarely into ethnocentricity.

P.S. Try not to let your emotions make you so easy to manipulate. Midas and OldDan have been dancing you on a string for quite a few posts now.

 

I don't even know where to begin to correct your semantic interpretations so I'll just skip it. Maybe if I used smaller words? Hum?

Anyway, for the past couple of pages, Old Dan has resorted to name calling and leading questions to make his racially biased points. I have agreed with Midas on some points and disagreed on others. If, in your short tenure in this thread, you call that dance on string (or maybe a thread), call me Pinocchio!

 

Well now Moen-n-groan (aka Pinocchio) you may wonder what makes you such a loveable fellow. it should be obvious even to a person holding three degrees. Either that or you'r the smartest fool in Illinois.