....mistrust among working-class conservatives who are demanding a presidential nominee.....

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  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I'm still not clear on what exactly you like about him. You say that you like what he says. Can you come up with a couple of specific policy statements Trump has made that you like?
     
  2. LucyRay
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    Better vetting of immigrants, protect our borders better (build a wall), tax those who need taxing. He's not bought and paid for. Everyone else is, on all sides. He's eccentric, yes. I like that. He will not bow to anyone..I believe he would make a fine, strong leader. I personally like strong leadership. He appears to me as a man who gets things done. I believe he has and will surround himself with the very best people to get things done. I actually do believe he has integrity. I see him, perceive him as honest. You may correct me Joe. I'll certainly listen. When I saw him last month, in Grand Rapids, (and I was just 15 feet away!) I was impressed with what appeared to me as his sincerity. Perhaps it was charisma.

    If he'd lower the bombast a bit, one might hear his points. It is time for him to say more than his talking points. Time to provide more substance.

    Just my opinion.
     
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  3. JoeNation
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    So essentially, you like his distrust of immigrants, you like his isolationist rhetoric, you want him to tax people who need taxing(who are they)? And you like that he doesn't owe any special interests and you like that he is eccentric. Who do you believe he will surround himself with? Who are these very best people? He has been called out as the single biggest teller of tall tales on either side so his honesty is clearly not his best asset. He has a total of 5 policies listed on his webpage. Have you been to it? He has absolutely zero political experience and zero political alleys on either side. He doesn't even have 5th grade understanding of the Constitution. He is a populist candidate saying anything that comes to the tip of his tongue at the moment. He stands up and simply tells stories that sound more like gossip and innuendo than leadership. He has praised both Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un as strong leaders. Both people he praises murder their political opponents and the press if they dare to step out of line. How are they worthy of worship by anyone looking to lead a democracy. He is the personification of arrogance and privilege. A nightmare trust fund baby that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and divorced and cheated on his wives 3 times. He isn't so much a leader as he is a spoiled brat. He never had to grow up. He has had everything handed to him his entire life. You have to overlook so much to find the few things you like when you should be looking at the whole package. And as of yesterday, white supremacists are making robo-calls in support of Trump. That should tell you one of two things. Either that his message resonates with white supremacists or that you (meaning the generic "you") agree with white supremacists.
     
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  4. LucyRay
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    I guess you don't like him. Ouch! I'll keep it all in mind. Thank you.
     
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  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I have no problem with Trump as a person, I just don't think he is remotely qualified to run this country on the basis that he can speak down to the lowest elements in the country. Calling people names, insulting people's faces, contradicting himself regularly in the same sentence, and touting despots is not the type of leadership we need in this country. Not by a long shot.
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    Oh, yes, you do. You hate him. That is how liberals organize their beliefs.
     
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  7. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    donald trump make america great.jpg
     
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  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    No, I just hate you. That's all.

    Famous hating conservative...
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  10. JoeNation
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    Just a couple more examples;

    http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/andrew-breitbart-dead-of-aids-at-83.4250/
     
  12. David

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    Yet Hillary is qualified?
    She's been a failure in everything she's ever attempted...professionally, politically and personally.
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You seem to think that everything the Right accuses Clinton of and then fails to prove, is her failure. It's really YOUR failure. You should really understand the difference.

    Accusations by Right-wing hate machine = Countless
    Clinton convictions = 0

    All you need to know.
     
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    Sorry, but WE had nothing to do with Libya, nothing to do with ISIS, nothing to do with Iran, nothing to do with Benghazi, nothing to do with Ukraine, nothing to do with Benghazi, nothing to do with her server, nothing to do with email, etc.

    No, it absolutely is not "All [we] need to know." Failure to learn the fact is exactly how you got on the wrong side of Fast and Furious, Zimmerman, Ferguson, Black panthers, a fraternity rape, etc.
     
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  15. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    So it is the "facts" that are missing here. I see.
     
  16. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Reality is too scary for them to consider. :rolleyes:
     
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    Not sure yet. I am sure this accounts for some of them, but the Obama administration has blocked all pertinent information (with you apparent agreement). Maybe we won't find out until people go to jail.

    Oh, and the necessary insult - dummy.
     
  18. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    So, Hillary Clinton is actually guilty of EVERYTHING the Right-wing has accused her of from murdering Vince Foster to calling off military help for the Americans in Benghazi but you just can't prove it because Obama is blocking "pertinent information"? Hum? I see.
     
  19. JoeNation
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    If I was to be perfectly honest, and I am, I doubt any one president was solely responsible for the crash. But you have to look at which party laser focuses on deregulation and has for decades. And it was deregulation that caused the crash. Bush was just the clueless water carrier for the banksters when it all went to hell and he did nothing to stop it until it was too late. He deserves the lion's share of the blame.
     
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    I heard this some where, but I believe it is fitting here.
    "I personally like people with different views and opinions. The people I can't tolerate are the ones that can't tell the difference between their own opinions and actual facts. I think that there are people convinced that their opinions are more valid than anyone else's opinions, are merely demonstrating that they have no confidence in their own positions. They generally are the loudest and the least informed. They are easy to pick out."
     
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