Over 1000 waivers given to exempt groups from the fiasco of Obamacare!!

Apparently, if you want to avoid getting embroiled in the Obamacare fiasco you have to be a union member or live in a liberal state. Though they refuse to fully disclose the numbers or criteria, the BO admin has granted over 1000 waivers exempting certain groups from inclusion in Obamacare...with most waivers being granted to groups in return for their support of Obamacare.
Now Anthony Weiner (D-NY) is demanding a waiver for his state????

Simple question:
If Obamacare is so good for everyone else, why are groups offering their support only if they are allowed to opt out of it?

 

How does one go about getting a waiver? Does one have to be a union member or Obama supporter to get it? Why would unions or Anthony Weiner want to opt out of this blessed regulation anyway?

 

You have to publically endorse it apparently.

 

OK, well I'll never publically endorse it. Or privately. Or semi-privately. Or consciously, subconsciously, knowingly, communally, conjointly, socially, universally, voluntarily, willfully or in any other way, shape or form.

 

Then you're stuck with it!

 

I think people should be able to completely opt out of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Well, if you already have health care, you pretty much are already opted out of having to be forcibly insured, BUT, I think that you shouldn't have the same protections that the rest of us have under the act either. You should be able to be dropped by your insurance company for any reason they see fit. You should have to be subjected to your kids being kicked off of your insurance when they turn 18. You should have the right to have no insurance at all. However, if you do come down with cancer or any other disease, you should have no access to the U.S. health care system unless you pay for it out of pocket. If you've lost your job or your employer doesn't offer a health plan, tough! You and your convictions get to die together. I see no reason you people that do not want to benefit from this plan to have to be in it at all. Make it an individual decision but know that if you have not paid into the system, don't expect access to it when you need it. Dying is a choice all people should have. I would enjoy watching the populations of the red states decline as the health and quality of life in the blue states increases. You can't fix dumb people and their right to be stupid so let them die in the streets for our entertainment.

 

You know, the real point of this thread really wasn't to debate the merits of Obamacare but rather to show the hypocrisy of it all.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51840.html

Why would one of the biggest advocates for Obamacare think there was a better option for his constiuents?

 

Yeah, but who cares!

And besides...

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I see what you are getting at now. Maybe you are unaware that about a month ago, President Obama spoke to all the governors and told them that if they have a better plan that won't cut people out of the system and is better than the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, go for it. He more or less called the bluff of the Republicans. However, New Hampshire I believe is taking him up on the challenge and creating a single payer model for their state that saves them about 500 billion in health care costs over some period of time. Republicans however, haven't come up with any plan, big surprise, other than to try and opt out of The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. We all know by now that the big insurance companies own the GOP and the only thing Republicans are interested in is making sure we all cough up as much as possible to keep fat insurance company executive’s salaries as high as possible and making sure that they don't have to cover sick people.
I understand your reluctance to believe any of this, I really do. For ideologues to admit any part of their ideology is faulty begins a crack that destroys everything they have believed in for a very long time. It brings into question their obedient adherence to authority and the belief that everything is either black or white. To give an inch is to recognize that the core belief isn’t as solid or as unyielding as years of intransient doctrine have promised. And a broken promise is as good as none. Oh but for the existence of those pesky truths cradled in the arms of Veritas herself.

 

I'm not trying to get to anything other than a simple answer.
Why would someone like Weiner fight so hard to ram Obamacare down the throats of the US people then turnaround & think a different deal might be better for New York?

 

The simple answer you crave is that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act isn't liberal enough for some on the Left because Obama compromised too much with the Right. Many of the people that are against the health care reform law are against it because it doesn't go far enough.

 

...but in this case, Weiner was one of the scheme's most ardent supporters....and, it is the cost he is concerned about, not whether the program is liberal enough for him.

 

It doesn't go far enough to cut costs because of the compromises Obama made with the Right. It leaves the insurance companies in charge and that keeps the costs from being lowered. It simply doesn't go far enough.

 

So it is flawed, huh? You've been singing Obamacare's praises yet, according to you, it doesn't work for either side? If the right isn't happy with it & the left isn't happy with it, why the resistance to repealling it & starting over?

 

That's a different question. It's simply a good start like all of the programs that get signed into law and changed over time. Starting over is simply a way for the Right to kill any of the changes and reverting to the system before the new health care law was passed. Repeal is not an option at this point. Making the law better is.

 

What it gets down to is simple: The American people are stuck with a piece of flawed legislation just so BO could repay his debt to Ted Kennedy. No one thought Obamacare had any redeeming benefit, therefore the deal making that had to occur to get it passed. Loopholes were written into it so that folks who publically supported it could go back one day & have their constituency exempted, but only if BO is willing to grant a waiver. The right hates it, apparently the left hates it...so we the people are stuck with it. Our only chance to avoid this fiasco, I guess, is to get in good with some left wing group that supported Obamacare as they seem to be who gets the waivers.

 

Even more!!!

Health Care Law | San Francisco | Nancy Pelosi | The Daily Caller

When does this hypocrisy end?

 

It doesn't end at Nancy Pelosi's doorstep, that's for sure. What a hypocrite she is. And a fool.

 

Hypocrite? YES
Fool? Not a chance. A very intelligent but amoral carbon unit. Everything she does is calculated to the n'th degree.