Pro-Union Protesters Try To Disrupt Michigan Capitol

So why shouldn't individuals have the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not to join a union?

 

Are your employees unionized?

 

I assume you're asking the question of our newbie liberal here on the forum (I can't see his posts since I have him on IGNORE. I grew tired of his bleating and blathering). He won't answer you. He didn't answer me. He's a coward.

 

Well, Michigan just passed the Right-to-Work legislation (Hooray!) and Democrats are already saying "there will be blood". Damn, when will the violence (and violent rhetoric) from the liberals end? Seriously, liberals, the violence needs to end immediately!

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So, are your employees unionized?

 

I think there will be blood. I think when you ram through legislation in a matter of hours without reading it, without any discussion at all and you threaten people's livelihoods, you can pretty much count on a return to the violence that this country had in the early 20th century between labor and corporations. You almost seem to be begging for it.
The Righties here like to complain that Obamacare was rammed through without a single Republican vote. The truth is that the process took nearly two years, it had around 600 Republican ideas incorporated into the bill and was debated and re-debated in congress for months. But they are perfectly OK with a Republican Gov and a Republican controlled state legislature ramming through sweeping legislation with no discussion allowed, no reading of the bill and no opposition tolerated with no prior notice. Apparently it's OK when they do it in a matter of hours but if the Democrats take nearly two years, then they can't tolerate legislation being "rammed" through.

 

What's wrong with giving workers the freedom to decide whether or not to join a union?

 

They still get the benefits negotiated for by the unions. Why is that right?

 

You still get the benefits negotiated by the Republicans. Why is that right?

 

Are you seriously saying that if the liberals don't get their way "there will be blood"?

 

You know Themistokles480 that picture is an insult to dog crap everwhere don't you?

 

If he is I doubt it would just be liberals Coin.

Lots of right wing, idiot "Skeeters" been stocking up on guns and ammo after all.

Somehow I doubt it's all for "home protection".

 

No, but I am sure that is how YOU perceive it. Ford for example, hired 5,000 union busting thugs to beat and sometimes kill striking workers. Who started the violence and who participated in it is a matter of historical record and taking one side over the other just demonstrates an ignorance of historical facts.

What I was saying was that if workers are backed into a corner the way they were in the past, why wouldn't both sides devolve into the violence we saw the last time workers were put in this situation. This Michigan legislation is nothing but political payback and the workers know it. How come you seem to be OK with ramming this legislation through in a matter of hours? It's exactly what you erroneously complained about the Democrats doing but turn a blind eye when it actually happens. Hum?

 

History seems to be a subject you adhere to when it fits your narrative, but ignore when it hits you in the face. Here's a good article you will enjoy. Listen to what he has to say:

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/17884/modern-day-unions-are-off-the-hook

You seem quick to resort to violence. Violence is seldom the answer. Now, if a guy pulls a knife on you, you probably will have to react violently (or, in your case, stand there with a stunned look on your face while he robs you). We ARE a nation of laws, you know. If the voters don't like what the legislators in Michigan (or Wisconsin, for that matter) are doing, vote them out and get people in who are more in line with their views.

I don't seem to recall a spate of violence erupting across the nation when Obamacare was shoved down America's throat. If you didn't like Obamacare, would your response have been to become violent (don't answer that; I already know the answer. Thank God you've decided not to carry a gun).

 

What about your favorite saying that from time to time the tree of liberty must be water with the blood of patriots? Why does that not apply to the Republican tyrants in Michigan? I didn't say that I advocated violence, I was saying that if conditions returned to what they were, people are still people and why wouldn't both sides do what they have done in the past? History often repeats itself.

 

That's my favorite saying? Now, you're putting words in my mouth. That certainly is a good saying, but I still don't advocate violence against the tyrannical unions.

Oh, but you've advocated violence in the past. Why would now be any different?

 

You seem to be on every side of the issues here. You just have to figure out which side is your side and then change your values to match your politics. How convenient.

 

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Hardly. If a company sent out its reps to attack workers, I would be against that. If union thugs act violently (as they did in Michigan yesterday), I'm against that. What part of "I'm against violence" don't you understand?