Protests Continue Against republicans In NC

... and there you go with "white" and that "brown face" thing, too. It's so easy to spew your racist remarks in an anonymous forum, but walk up to someone on the street you don't know and try saying, "Hi, brown man" and see how far that gets you. You just don't understand, do you?

 

Oh my, a mob of peaceful old people advocating education. Gasp!!!! A republican's worst nightmare, I'm sure (the education part).

 

Simply observing that a group contains people of different races is not in and of itself racism. Observing that Tea Partiers have a history of denigrating and demonizing people on the basis of skin color is not racism. What's racist in this instance is taking part in this denigration, approving of it, or trying to excuse it or brush the fact aside. As you do.

 

...and...

...I feel like I should say "Ohhh, snap!"...or something.

 

Please explain why you say I'm racist.

 

No, but pre-judging their heritage based upon the color of their skin certainly is. Distinguishing them based on the color of their skin certainly is. Separating them from others in the group based on heritage or skin color certainly is. Every time you call someone "white", "brown", "black", "red", "yellow", etc. you're making a judgment about their heritage or, at the very least, you're segregating them (if not physically then in your own mind) by skin color even though it may not be a conscious effort on your part. One can be "racist" without, necessarily, having ill will toward those of different skin colors. I know you've been taught since you were a baby to separate colors, but as an educated adult you need to realize that separating, distinguishing or categorizing humans from others based on skin color is racist. Please, in this case... at least try to be a bit more color-blind. You don't know what my skin color is and I don't know what yours is (it doesn't matter), but I would hope that should we ever meet, you don't think to yourself, "Oh, I didn't know he (or she) was (skin color)". As an aside, I bet you've always thought I was male (if you even gave it any thought [let the jokes from the liberals begin]). If you did, you made a pre-judgment about me. If you thought I was female, you would have made a pre-judgment. Try not to do that.

I don't know what Tea Party rally you've been observing, but I doubt there's much denigrating or demonizing based on skin color. Certainly, there are going to be a few bad apples in every bunch, but from what I've seen from the majority of Tea Partiers, they're not racist. Now is where you start searching Google, Bing or Yahoo for pics of racists at Tea Party rallies. You'll find some, of course, just like you will at just about any rally or public gathering.

Oh, it's a fact there are racists in this world. I acknowledge it. Not only on the conservative side of the spectrum, but just as many on the liberal side. Racism is an ugly thing and I've seen it rear its ugly head from some liberal members on this forum. I've seen it from conservatives, too. I'm not attempting to excuse or brush anything aside. You're mistaken if you have that impression.

 

Kind of like when people think Obama is Muslim because his name "sounds" Muslim, and then go on to make up tales of him being born in Kenya, having a fake birth certificate, being Muslim, being lenient towards Muslims (as he's bombing them with drones ). Funny how sensitive one side is when they forget their own stance on the issue.

 

Hey, look who is lecturing ME about racism! The same idiot that posted this picture.
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What does being Muslim (a religion) or being born in Kenya (a geographical location) have to do with "race".

 

Dumbass, that's not racist. Maybe YOU perceive it as racist since that's what you want to believe, but it's political satire, not racist satire.

 

Oh no, absolutely nothing racist about replacing "Uncle Ben" with Obama. It's dog whistle racial stereotyping that you are so used to that you can't even see how racist it is. It's a wink and a nod to the party bigots. Too damn dumb to even know your own racist upbringing but using the terms white and brown is somehow racist. YOU are a first-class moron.

Uncle Ben's Rice

The image of an elderly black man has appeared in ads for Uncle Ben's Rice since 1946. So, just who exactly is Ben? According to the book Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben and Rastus: Blacks in Advertising Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow, Ben was a Houston rice farmer known for his superior crops. When Texas food broker Gordon L. Harwell launched a brand of commercial rice cooked to preserve nutrients, he decided to name it Uncle Ben's Converted Rice, after the respected farmer, and use the image of an African-American maitre d' he knew to be the face of the brand.
On packaging, Uncle Ben appeared to be a menial type, as suggested by his Pullman Porter-like attire. Moreover, the title "Uncle" likely derives from the practice of whites addressing elderly African Americans as "uncle" and "aunt" during segregation because the titles "Mr." and "Mrs." were deemed unsuitable for blacks, who were regarded as inferior.
In 2007, however, Uncle Ben received a makeover of sorts. Mars, the owner of the rice brand, debuted a website in which Uncle Ben is portrayed as the chairman of the board in a posh office. This virtual facelift was a way for Mars to bring Ben, an outdated racial stereotype of the black man as sharecropper-servant, into the 21st century.

 

Well, of course everyone knows the story of Uncle Ben. You're conflating the notion of political satire and racism. Had that been George W. Bush's picture on the box with the title "Uncle Benghazi" you would have thought nothing of it. You certainly wouldn't have thought it was racist. But, being as you see Barack Obama as a "black" man and can't separate political satire from an attack on his "race" then, naturally, you see the satire as racist. But, then you can't see beyond your own hands that are planted firmly over your own eyes.

 

There's a subtle difference between making an observation about a particular characteristic and viewing that observation using one's prejudices, or preconceived notions.

Example:

Young black male walking in YOUR neighborhood carrying what looks to be Skittles, but are they? Are they really? Maybe you should chase after him and find out if he's up to no good. Be careful though, especially if you're an out-of-shape loser, 'cause the kid might just beat the hell out of you and you'll have to kill him with the gun you're carrying in order to "protect" yourself.

Seems to me, if you are some lazy white dude and you see a young black male walking around your neighborhood during your armed-patrol you could just say: "Hi", and if you MUST intrude on his privacy: "Sorry to bother you but I'm a neighborhood watchperson and just want to ask you if you live around here since I don't know you." Apologize afterwards for the intrusion and maybe you can get to know the kid and maybe even become friends.

It's that freaking easy.

Don't assume the kid is "up to no good" just because he's black and walking in YOUR neighborhood. He doesn't know you have a gun and will kill him, should he try to get away from you. He doesn't know that by making his own "stand your ground" claim and kicking your ass to defend himself against a racist bully is going to get him killed.

Yes, I claim Trayvon Martin is innocent of any assault claims by the defense on the grounds that he himself was the first to "stand his ground" against George Zimmerman's unwarranted attempts to chase him down. Therefore, Zimmerman's claim that he himself was "standing his ground" is unsubstantiated, and he should be found guilty of willful murder.

If he hadn't brought a gun into it, or at least learned proper techniques in handling guns and/or unarmed combat, at worst he'd just have his ass kicked and not be on trial right now for murder. Better yet, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.

 

Is religion not one's "heritage"?
According to you, it falls within the category of racism. Isn't that the same as being anti-semantic (Ie, being racist towards Jews)?

 

Being Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist, Satanic, etc. has absolutely nothing to do with one's "race". Skin color or heritage has nothing to do with one's choice of religion (or no religion). That being said, many children are raised to believe the way their parents believe and you might consider that part of their heritage. But, when I speak of "heritage", I'm not talking about cultural heritage, I'm talking about human heritage in the sense that we are all Homo Sapiens. Man separated us into "races", mother nature didn't.

 

... and you call yourself "educated"?

 

I wish you did some reading once in a while:
"In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws."
http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm

May not be PC in today's world, but it is still a ruling that stands in the US Supreme Court. Hmmm.....

Why yes, I do.

 

He is against words!?!?!

 

Fair enough, so I misspelled a word. Is that your only rebuttal to the debate? Please, put my edumacation thingy to the test.

 

I'm sure I've heard this argument before from the Right.

When I use the term, racism, I pretty much follow this definition:

However, this doesn't seem to be what you are talking about. In essence what you seem to be saying is that it is denigrating and antagonistic, in other words, that it is racist to even comment on the color of someone's skin, to even acknowledge that people of different skin colors exist (or don't exist) within a given group. If it is racist to observe that there are brown faces or yellow faces, or even white faces in a crowd, it is just as racist to point out the lack thereof and it would also be racist to speculate on what these facts might signify. Neat way of sidestepping any unwanted or uncomfortable comments regarding the racial makeup and attitudes of, among other organizations, the Tea Party.

We've all seen the pictures. And they definitely have a place. But I think the addition of quotes makes them much more effective. They help give the pictures voice, don't you think?

Yes, that's exactly the impression I have. But it's weakening a bit. Oh yeah, I did once wonder for a few seconds if you were a woman. I've forgotten what triggered it. Haven't really thought about it since.