Reid Set to Force Vote on GOP Medicare Plan in Senate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, May 20, 2011.

  1. craig a

    craig a New Member

    So you arent going to answer as to how Obama has divided this country? You just say crap and move on, huh?
     
  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I'm always amazed when you resort to gibberish, nonsense, and redirection once you've been called out for the foolish statements you've made. Although you'd think I'd be used to it by now.
     
  3. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    And 40 Republican Senators vote for Paul Ryan's "Kill Medicare" bill. Is this really a starting point or is this the final goal for the Right wing.
     
  4. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Would you care to tell me how many senators (reps or dips) voted for the Obama budget?
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    No
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Gee! I wonder why. Maybe because it got fewer votes?
     
  7. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    0, I believe.
     
  8. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Obama could always appoint an Emergency Financial Manager... bypass the Legislature altogether lol ...Doesn't everyone always say "Fire the (deleted)!" anyway? An EFM could do that, fire all of them... I kinda like the idea now! (LAUGHS) C'mon... let's make a dictator!
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Another czar?
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    The fact of the matter is Medicare is going broke, regardless of how strong Harry Reid claims it is. We can sit back & do nothing about it as the libs would advocate (and fall further & further into the abyss) or we can address it. Ryan's budget keeps Medicare unaffected for a generation. Those of us under 55 have plenty of time to adjust & prepare....maybe this way something will be there for us because at the current rate there will be nothing for future generations except the massive debt.
     
  11. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    No, a czar's powers are limited. An EFM has the power to fire elected officials and take over all aspects of their former jobs.

    An EFM, on a Federal level (so far only on a state level), could fire all governors (and their state's senators & representatives) and hire his own staff to do their duties. They'd all report to him, he'd report to the president. It's happening right now (on a state level) in Michigan. I doubt anyone wants to make Obama a dictator though lol... (thinks for a second) ...then again...(laughs)
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    BO's czar's power is limited only by BO.
    BO may daydream of being a dictator (Lord knows there are still idiots out there who support him despite what he has done to the country, so you never know) someday but I'm still certain he'll be one & done.
     
  13. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Care to back that statement up with facts David?
     
  14. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    See, here is a case where you've simply bought into the latest Republican lie. It is not a fact that Medicare is going broke. Medicare will start paying out more than it is taking in in like 10 or 20 years depending on who you believe IF, and that is a big IF, there are no adjustments made to the program. The problem is that Republicans have pounced on this issue not to fix Medicare but to kill Medicare, a program they have fought against from its inception. Republicans are being disingenuous again in order to drive their war on the middle class. Like 80% of the people want to keep Medicare as the Democrats are willing to do and they do not want to give more tax breaks to the wealthy and turn Medicare into a coupon program which is exactly what the Republican's plan does. Be careful when you call something a "fact" when in reality it is merely a Right wing talking point.
     
  15. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Facts? Like medicare is going broke. Try this Medicare Will Go Broke By 2018, Trustees Report - washingtonpost.com
    Lies? "Republicans are being disingenuous again in order to drive their war on the middle class." Proof?
    Lies? "Like 80% of the people want to keep Medicare as the Democrats are willing to do..." Proof?

    BTW, Be careful when you call something a "fact" when in reality it is merely a left wing talking point.
     
  16. craig a

    craig a New Member

    You mean like when you said Obama ''severely divided this country''(sic)?
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Are you serious? I thought Harry Reid was the only one stupid enough to say this stuff out loud, so I stand corrected.
     
  18. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    FreedomWorks telling freshman Republicans what to say about Medicare.

    • Get out there and talk to people. Hold town halls at senior centers and other areas where the population is especially concerned about their benefits being cut. Take the lessons of ’94 and ’95 and get out there and explain to people that their immediate benefits will not be affected. Explaining the plan will offset confusion and the Democrats’ negative messaging.
    • We need to dispel the myth that if we leave Medicare alone it will stay the same. It won’t. By reforming them we are saving and strengthening these programs for the current and future generations.
    • Don’t bury your head in the sand. Republicans must not shy away from this issue. Expect Democrats to attack, but not fighting back will only makes it worse. BOLD action is needed.
    • Communicate that Democrats do not have a plan of their own. Hold up a blank piece of paper as a powerful image of their do-nothing approach.
    • Stick to your message.
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Truth & facts always have been pesky issues for libs.
     

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