So, what do you think of $5.00/gal gasoline?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    How long will this process take? The reason I ask is simple. We currently don't have an affordable alternative to fossil fuels yet BO is pushing ahead with his (stated) objective of rasing fuel prices as a means of weening us off fossil fuels. Doesn't seem right to me.
    I'm not in sales
     
  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    When did he say that?

    I am not in financial aid. Now answer the question.
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I'm not sure when he said it.
    By the way, what about that question that came up a couple of posts back? You were bragging about your $60k a year raise (roughly the cost of the 2 Chevy Volts you said you could buy) & I asked you how that jived with your previous claims of the dire financial straits your school found itself in. Remember, you said folks were losing their jobs, wages were being cut, tuition was being increased, remember thos claims? Now you claim to have rec'd a huge raise in pay? Can you explain the contradiction here?
     
  4. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Iqless.....serious questions that I hope you will answer honestly....

    Given your financial situation (which you have freely discussed):
    1) Does the rising price of gas put a further burden on you financially?
    2) Is going out & spending $30k on an electric car a viable alternative for you?

    Anyone else here is free to answer the same questions.
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Again, does that fact that not everyone being able to initially afford a hybrid really justify us not investing in them? Does not the people that can afford to buy such cars save gas and lower the price by reducing consumption? I don't know how anyone can be against alternatives unless they like pumping money in Arab countries.

    1) No, I can walk to work. Working close to home is a choice I made.

    2) Yes, it is a viable alternative.

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  6. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    First of all, thank you for being serious. I consider that an important step in reasonable dialogue. Now to answer your questions:

    1) Yes.
    2) No.

    Now, while the answers I gave above are true, they are not the only factors involved in the debate about whether or not an electric car is worthwhile pursuing on a federal level. Moen has provided some of the general reasons, and I agree with them, so I will address what electric cars have to do with the poor intead:

    In general, the poor do not travel far. Trips to the grocery store or work are the norm, and trips to vacation spots are not. Some walk when they are able to, some call a cab when they can afford to, some drive if they are able to afford to... but none can currently afford to spend $30,000 to buy an electric car...BUT... the cars the poor drive (when they have one) are used, and not just "I've had it for a year and now I want something different"-used, these cars have typically changed owners several times over the years and are at the end of their life. They leak oil, have parts rusted off, have mufflers held together with soup cans and wire hangers... when they are allowed to be on the road (some states have stringent requirements that prevent these types of cars on the road, so less poor people drive as a result). My point is that eventually those electric cars will degrade to the point where only the poor will want them and the poor will get them back on the road as best they can. Gasoline or electric? The poor generally have other, more pressing things to worry about like affording food and shelter, living with diseases, or generally wondering if they'll live to see tomorrow.
     
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    De Orc Well-Known Member

  8. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

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  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    What would BO have the poor to do? They won't be able to afford inflated gas prices & they sure can't afford $30k electric cars?
    Not everyone can wait for the cars to become affordable as iqless sees happening nor is it realistic for everyone to move within walking distance of their job as moen sees as the solution.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Also the one who said;
    “Somehow,” Chu said, “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
     
  12. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Exactly, but the point is moot since the President has very little impact on the price of gasoline. If President did, you'd be pumping dollar-gas right now, it being election-time. He might be able to knock the price down temporarily, but it'll never stay there permanently.
     
  13. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Depends on the voting bloc you are trying to appeal to. BO screwed us on the Keystone Pipeline simply to gain the support of the eco-lobby.
     
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  14. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Just think of how much more cash the Bush family will be tossed their way! I'm sure they're hoping for 10 bucks a gallon.
     
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  15. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    With Obama at the helm they may get their wish!
     
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Screwed US? In what way? Canadian oil, processed here where all the carcinogens get released into our country, and then the oil is put on the world market for the benefit of the oil companies bottom line in approximately 10 years. Hum? I can live without being screwed like that for quite awhile.

    Why is it that facts never seem to make it into the Right-wing narratives?
     
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  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Every single economic expert has said unequivocally that the only thing driving up gas prices is speculators like Goldman Sachs. We currently are drilling more wells for natural gas and oil in this country than the rest of the world combined...FACT! For the first time in decades, the U.S. is exporting fuel...FACT!
     
  18. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    If you were not so ignorant of the facts and an admitted liar, your opinions might make your posts improve all the way to funny.
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    So go ahead and dispute anything I have posted. I dare you. Insults are just the pathetic man's refuge.
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    You must be the single most pathetic man out there then.


    Do you need more proof? Not at all difficult to find.
     

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