Terrorist Tea Party Again.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Thank you! If the shoe fits...
     
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  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    See, while you have to present a false narrative to make another one of your stupid points, your ilk at FOX are celebrating the VA dysfunction as a gift from God.

    "I think what's happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider," said conservative pundit and former neurosurgeon Ben Carson Saturday on Fox News. "And if we can't get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world with are you going to do it with the entire population?"

    That is what an actual celebration of a tragedy looks like. Your side doing it. Maybe that is what confused you.
     
  3. Recusant
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    I never suggested that this incident wasn't an example of the violent tendencies of some on the lunatic fringe of the right wing, which also is mostly white. However, it's a huge and unwarranted leap from that to painting all conservatives as racist, and white people in general as prone to this sort of crime, which is what DeVega is doing.
     
  4. Recusant
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    Recusant Member

    Yep. It might help if you removed it from your pie-hole once in a while.
     
  5. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, what does this shooting you're celebrating here have to do with BO's VA scandal?
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    I thought about it but this way is more fun, so NOPE!
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    How in the hell can you say that these two were not terrorists? Terrorism is a tactic. These two terrorized a peaceful town in broad daylight. If that isn't terrorism, what is? The political message was there, their rhetoric was consistent with terrorism, what exactly sets them apart? Being white? Being American? Please, come to your senses and call it what it is. Over intellectualizing your objection to what DeVega wrote doesn't excuse giving these types a pass.

    When did I say all white supremacists were terrorists? I think they are all several fries short of a happy meal but they are responsible for more deaths in this country in the last 10 years than actual foreign terrorists.

    Do you believe feeding the Right wing trolls here is better use of your malignant tendencies? Because as you can plainly see, they are all over it. Using broad blanket statements is all they know and you have just help their stupidity. You embolden it with your comments. These aren't bright folks your dealing with. You should know your audience a little better before you climb on your high-horse and lecture me.

    Think, before you type man.
     
  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Only inside of the Right-wing bubble.
     
  9. Recusant
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    I don't recall saying that.

    Misrepresenting what I wrote will not change the fact that DeVega's article is, while occasionally accurate, also racist, inflammatory and laden with bullshit. He says that the Tea Party is motivated by white racism (not "partly motivated," not "some members of the Tea Party are. . ."). I don't doubt that some members of the Tea Party are racists, and hate the president merely because of his race. That doesn't mean that the Tea Party as a whole is a racist movement, nor that all Tea Party members are racists, which is indeed what he implies.

    I was addressing what appears to be a blanket statement: "These Right wingers are plain and simply terrorists and they have the common thread of being white supremacists." Apparently I misunderstood, though you might have prevented that by using the past tense to show that you were only talking about the dead couple.

    Heheh, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I don't consider the right wing members of this site to be trolls. I think they're sincere in their beliefs, and indulge themselves by using troll tactics to a greater or lesser extent. That's par for the course on this site, and neither you nor I are exempt. They're pretty much in lock step, though, which is kind of pathetic.

    I don't think that anything that I write here is going to have much effect on this site's right wing members one way or another. Am I underestimating my influence, or overestimating their bullheadedness, or both?

    As I see it, I'm not lecturing you so much as disagreeing with the article you posted.

    That wouldn't be in keeping with the glorious ethos of Partisan Lines, man.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Please pass the popcorn...
     
  11. GhostX

    GhostX Moderator Moderator

    David, if you don't like a thread that is about something on here, don't reply to it and cause problems. Now end it.

    Also don't make rude comments to/or about another user on here.
     
  12. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    I don't know. Does anyone?

    How hard was it for them to get the guns?


    Would better background checks possibly have prevented this?

    Now that's a question I'd love to know the answer to.
     
  13. Takiji

    Takiji Well-Known Member

    Seems like a lot of these shooters were law abiding citizens until suddenly they weren't anymore.
     
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  14. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I am not sure background check would have taken care of any one. However, the last I heard, most could have been taken care of by mental health care.
     
  15. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    That's a problem, Joe. You see a person as "white". Or "black". Or "Mexican". Or whatever other race you desire to designate them to be. That labeling system, in and of itself, is racist.

    Don't you know anyone who appears "white", but may be, for example, half Native American? Or someone who appears "black", but is also half "white"? Does that make him black? Or does it make him white? Does any of it, in this supposedly enlightened day and age, really matter? It's time to relegate your racist labeling system to the trash heap of history where it belongs.
     
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  16. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Joe needs to define what a "white" person is for the purpose of this discussion. Does he mean "caucasian" or anyone with ancestors from the Caucasus region? Do they have to be totally caucasian or can they be mixed with other races? To what degree of mix is allowed? 50% "white"/50% "black"? Perhaps 30% "white/10% "black" and 60% "asian"?

    A lot of people these days identify themselves as members of certain 'races" even though their outward appearance would seem to indicate otherwise. Should we simply start identifying people based on their appearance no matter what they claim their heritage to be?

    Obama is the perfect example. He's 50% white and 50% black. Many people identify him as white. Others identify him as black. I'm not sure as to how he identifies himself. But, does it matter? He's a human being and that's all that really matters. The color of a person's skin is, literally, superficial.

    Also, I'd like to add several more to the list of so-called "non-whites" if for no other reason than to show Joe that he's mistaken in his assumption:

    San Francisco, CA, 2003: Gian Luigi Ferri

    Melrose, CA, 1989: Gung Ung Chang

    Birchwood, WI, 2004: Chai Soua Vang

    College Station & Hemphead, TX, 1983: Elisio Hernandez Moreno

    Hialeah, FL, 2013: Pedro Alberto Vargas

    Carson City, NV, 2011: Eduarado Sencion

    Oakland, CA, 1937: Bennie Bonifacio Aranda

    New York City, NY, 1988: Cho Mun Chu

    Dallas, TX, 1984: Abdelkrim Belachheb

    Fairfield, CA, 1928: Leung Ying

    Los Angeles, CA, 2013: Christopher Dorner
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Ah, I see how this is gonna work....

    So, tell me what posts have offended him?
     
  18. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Playing the wounded duck again eh?

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  19. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    It's funny that nobody on the Right is acknowledging that these two terrorists draped the symbol of the Tea Party, the "Don't Tread On Me Flag" a.k.a. Gadsden flag, over the bodies of the 2 cops they just murdered. If that isn't the most damning evidence of the insanity that is the Tea Party, I don't know what is. People this crazy are emboldened by the Right wing rhetoric of a tyrannical government, Second Amendment solutions, and armed resistance nonsense that the Right regularly spews. Remember the folks that recently showed up to drive our elected leaders from office? They are small radical well-armed lunatics that are encouraged by the Right wing media. When is this going to stop?
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Damning the Tea Party? Why? Did the OWS peoples "damn" the left? Did Ayers "damn" the left? Did Blagojevich "damn" the left? Did Weiner"damn" the left?
     
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