The Affordable Care Act....Check & Mate

Leave it to you to take someone's word and a detail-lacking account for a situation that agrees with your narrative without being able to actually know the situation in in any meaningful detail. And you know you don't know the details of RUSSO's financial situation anymore than I do. I'm at least honest enough to say that I couldn't possibly know his full situation while you jump on whatever is convenient to support your own narratives.

 

I don't think Russo is lying.

 

Survey shows ObamaCare sending premiums rising at fastest clip in decades


April 14, 2014

A recent survey of 148 insurance brokers shows that ObamaCare is sending premiums rising at the fastest clip in decades.

"For the last, about, five years they've been doing this survey, so this was the largest percentage increase in any quarter since they've been doing (it)," says Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute.

"But at 12 percent, 11 percent increase on average across all the states -- that puts it at the upper end of any increase we've seen for decades."

That is the national average in a survey done by Morgan Stanley. But in some states, it found rates are soaring.

"There are specific states with exorbitant increases," says Gottlieb. "Delaware had 100 percent increase, Florida had a 37 percent increase, Pennsylvania 28 percent increase, California had a 53 percent increase in their premiums."

Rates vary widely, often depending on the state and how highly regulated it was to begin with. Analysts, however, say the main reasons for the higher costs are not medical inflation, but rather the requirements of ObamaCare itself.

"There are certain regulations and certain requirements that had to be in there. And because of that it's driven up the costs of these benefits," says John DiVito of the Flexible Benefit Service Corporation, which represents hundreds of agents.Rate hikes include ten essential health benefits along with more than 20,000 pages or regulations.

The reported hikes are for the first policies issued under ObamaCare in 2014.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...g-premiums-rising-at-fastest-clip-in-decades/

 

Let me fix that for you based on the amount of knowledge you can actually have.

 

You are making that claim as a fallacy in your question.

 

Show us some verified facts to consider.

 

The latest CBO report shows costs down, over $109 billion and "The law is expected to cover 26 million Americans who would otherwise not have had insurance by 2014."

The 'few' 26 million.

You do realize health care costs were growing out of control and this helps check them. Over all it would be a lot worse in the long run for the nation as a whole, even with less people insured. But you can't admit a success when it piss's in your face.

 

Isn't that the same report that says it will cost $1.4T? So, so far in its limited implementation, the costs have only doubled from Obama's promised figures. WOW! And then there is this:
Obamacare to cut work hours by equivalent of 2 million jobs: CBO

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/04/us-usa-fiscal-obamacare-idUSBREA131B120140204

 

Feb 4? Your post is disregarded. Go find the newest.

 

Here, I'll help the internet impaired. More than 2 months newer. http://www.cbo.gov/publication/45231

Start there.

 

If not beyond your skills you might even want to read the thing itself http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45231-ACA_Estimates.pdf

 

from your site;

 

And your point is?

 

I couldn't find the link to this on CBO but huff po had it just as it appears in the report

 

I happen to know what your problem is in your post 132, but will wait for you to blunder run your mouf to straighten you out , K

 

He has this practice of posting something, anything, and regardless of what he posts, it proves his point. That's when I just ignore him completely. It's a win-win. He thinks that he has just made a salient point and I don't have to talk to him anymore.

 

New to Forum

 

I am new to this particular forum today and have never gotten involved in any online debates. I have always been appalled by the arrogance and name-calling and ridicule on the part of many posters and I hope I don’t let myself get dragged into that.
With that said here goes…
I will start out by saying that my own personal experience and studies of both sides of this issue, has landed me in direct opposition to what I consider to be the very misnamed Affordable Care Act. It is still way too early for either side to claim victory on where this debate will end up, but my assessment is pointing to a very unhealthy and unaffordable prognosis. It would take me pages to explain it all, so I won’t. For now, I will simply express my view on some recent posts:
Freshmeat (interesting choice of name, low self-esteem?):
1) In your posts 130 and 131 you mentioned low reading skills and the internet impairment of those on the other side of the issue and in your post 126 you stated "show us some verifiable facts".
2) In your post 127: The latest CBO report shows costs down, over $109 billion and "The law is expected to cover 26 million Americans who would otherwise not have had insurance by 2014." The 'few' 26 million.
To begin, the report you site and even your later posted chart and a graph, clearly show that the 25+ million "previously uninsured" is by 2024 not 2014. Misread? Typo? Wishful thinking? Biased vision? You do realize, don’t you, that the difference in cost projections which you state show "costs down $109 billion" only reduces the projected additional 10 year cost to taxpayers of the ACA to still about $1.4 trillion more than a budget with no ACA? Furthermore, no verifiable, fully active policy numbers are available anywhere, much less knowing how many were previously uninsured. I hope it’s as high as you think, because it is being done at great expense to the taxpayer, the economy and personal freedoms.
I guess I give you a passing grade on internet skills, reading comprehension… not so much.
JoeNation (which nation?):
Your posts showing Sarah Palin, labeled fascism and stating that all racists are Republicans is disgusting, totally inaccurate and shows that you have your own uneducated, bigoted viewpoint.
I made the mistake of voting for Barack Obama in 2008 (but not in 2012) because the things he promised sounded good, he is a great reader of speeches. I also thought that electing an"Afro/white" American to the office of presidency would only improve the great strides our society had taken to reduce racial discrimination. Of course it still existed, on all sides, and in all races. The best we can do is to keep working to minimize it. I believe our president has done more to stir up racial animosity in this country than any president in history. He and his administration try to make almost every issue about race. If you don’t agree with me, you’re a racist. So when I voted for him in 2008 I wasn't a racist, but when I found out he had lied and continues to blatantly lie to the American people… it’s not his policies I’m apposed to? …I’m a racist? Give me a break!!! "Conservative are racists" is a greater generalized fallacy than
"Republicans are only for the rich and the Democrats are for the middle class" BULL!!! I’m afraid that the greater truth is that most of our elected officials in Washington D.C. are only interested in what benefits them, not the American people nor our collective Nation.

 

Did you figure out his mistake? I know where his lack of comprehension made him think he was calling it out.