"The American People"

That isnt the same as what you stated before. Fact is no one really know what the american people want. They only know what they want for themselves.

 

I 100% believe that was not sarcasm - until you needed an out, anyway.

I believe that you do not "see how that is equivalent to saying that he has a mandate", but then you do not listen to the right, so I guess that is to be expected of you. BTW, Bush is far from my god. His economic policies just plane stunk.

Apparently I hit a nerve because you are back to your insults.

 

Well I don't keep a running score with every US politician, but Obama talks about what the "American People" want & believe just like the Republicans being criticized in this thread. In fact, the last time I heard Obama do this was less than 24 hours ago in his Friday night press conference.

He was speaking about compromise and the balance approach referred to including both revenue increases along with spending cuts in the solution to the debt problem. Before that, hmmmm, didn't he have an already famous quote just one week earlier?

This quote was about the same topic btw, that the American people support a balanced approach.

 

Really!!! Even after you read, "Mandates are a joke and so are those that believe in them. ", you still believed that it was not sarcasm? How does one go about conversing with you when you seem to have your own language? You seem to misunderstand so much so often. And yet you are always the first to respond to any post addressed to you or not. That sort of makes you the classic mud in the clean waters doesn't it. Listening more and talking less would be your best approach but that doesn't seem to be in your nature. Sad really.

 

I just figured it out I think. Since a corporation is legally the same as a person, the Tanman is actually saying "The American Corporations". They're all his people. Now I get it.

 

Tumbleweeds!

 

Cactus…. Or is it cacti?

 

Yes, Yes, Yes, the point is that it is Ok to say when there are actual facts behind what you say. For example:

Even Rasmussen poll shows voters want a “balanced” approach to budget crisis
July 25, 2011 by jeffpelline
Editor’s note: Even a Rasmussen poll, normally held up by the tea party to make a point, shows that most voters would opt for a congressional candidate who balances spending cuts with tax hikes over one who’s totally opposed to any tax increases. Is Tom McClintock listening?
“Fifty-six percent (56%) of Likely U.S. Voters would be more likely to support a candidate for Congress who said that a balanced approach including spending cuts and increased tax revenue is needed to reduce the federal debt. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 34% would be more likely to favor a candidate who promised to vote against all tax hikes.

Republicans just say it in spite of no proof of their words.

 

You mean like this poll?

Poll: Most Americans oppose raising debt limit - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Or if you prefer Rasmussen, try this poll

55% Oppose Tax Hike In Debt Ceiling Deal - Rasmussen Reports™

Or even a line from your own poll;

56% Favor A Congressional Candidate Who Endorses Balanced Approach to Debt Debate - Rasmussen Reports™

OOPS! There are those ugly facts again

 

Oh look, more current facts...

Poll: Rising Percentage Say Default Would Harm Economy

The tide of voter sentiment continues to shift toward Washington policymakers seeking a debt-ceiling compromise and away from the so far seemingly inflexible position of House Republicans.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll adds to the sense that voters, who once seemed to not want the U.S. debt ceiling raised, have changed their minds in recent days.

For instance, the percentage of those who say that not raising the debt ceiling would have a serious impact on the U.S. economy rose to 82 percent of those polled in mid-July compared with 71 percent who said the same in early June.

Poll: Rising Percentage Say Default Would Harm Economy : It's All Politics : NPR

Why did you choose to ignore this poll? Agenda?

 

How about just one line - "But another recent survey finds that voters feel more strongly than ever that decreasing government spending is good for the economy and think tax increases of any kind are a bad economic move." And that line comes from your initial poll. If you do not like that answer, look at question #21 in the poll cited in the above post. That one looks mighty familiar also.

 

So the lesson here is that you can find a poll that says anything you want? What a shock!

 

So you are admitting that your posts #28 and #30 were meaningless!

BTW, it was not so much that I found A poll that says anything I wanted, I found both of YOUR polls to say what I wanted.

 

I don't know if characterizing my comments as admitting my posts were meaningless is even relevant but I would say that you tend to post polls that agree with your position without regard to those that contradict it.

BTW Given the subjective nature of polls these days, how many do you want me to post to be convinced of a certain point of view? Just give me a number and I'll make sure you have it. I'm sure you'll be convinced then.

PS I figured out what rlm stand for and it actually wasn't because you tend to dirty the water of any conversation.

 

"I don't know if characterizing my comments as admitting my posts were meaningless is even relevant " HUM, it seems kind of relevant to me.


"but I would say that you tend to post polls that agree with your position without regard to those that contradict it." OMG, you have been here for 6+ years and it is just now dawning on you that people here tend to post items supporting their side?!?!?! Welcome to the real world - or at least this part of it. I doubt that you have woken up to the rest of it yet.

 

It seems everyone is getting twisted up in the politics & aren't concerning themselves with what's best for the country. Regardless of which side of the aisle you are on you would have to admit business drives our economy. When business is thriving, the middle class is working and whoever is in charge of the government looks like the hero. Whether you like business or not it is the only source of jobs in the country. Passing any sort of measure that impedes business (or offers the illusion of impeding business) is not what we need right now. What we need is a business environment that fosters confidence..it will trickle up & it will trickle down. How much more simple could it be?
How much sense does it make to penalize the very sources of growth in our economy?

 

You are taking for granted that supply-side economics actually creates jobs. There is no proof of that whatsoever. 10 years of massive tax cuts for the supply-siders (30 if you go back to Reagan) and how is our job situation going? I'm for trying trickle up for a change. Lets make those high paid elitists earn their private jets, multimillion dollar estates, and limos for a change. Workers in this country earn their living every single day.

 

Applying your own liberal logic for a moment, have you considered where we might be had those policies not been enacted? Think: BO's jobs "created & saved" argument!

Trickling up from what?

 

That's not my logic. I would never suggest that because we can never actually know the alternate reality the actual reality must be in error. I'll leave that kind of nonsense to you.

 

So, you didn't answer- trickle up from what?