The division in America began in grade school

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    I read the first page and a half and skipped the next three pages of one upsmamship and insults to offer a unique perspective….. I attended formal education for only a very brief period. The short time I was there I made absolutely nothing of it and have zero class time in any higher education….. I don’t say that because I am proud of it. In fact I am not. However it does offer me a unique perspective into what is taking place now.

    I been on the earth for more than sixty years. I have witnessed bigotry first hand. I have watched three grown kids six grandkids and two great grandkids go through school and now have another of my own in school. Whether or not we have whitewashed history in previous generations is in fact a fair debate. However, what we are teaching kids today is truly how to hate one another. It is unprecedented and I can assure you the result will be that when these kids become adults the division in our nation will be on par with the black/white division of the 50’s and 60’s.

    We are not teaching tolerance for one another. While our history may or may not have been skewed in generations past, we weren’t teaching intolerance for one another and vile hatred for the very system that sustains us all as is occurring now. Whatever frilly name you choose to give it, these children are being taught intolerance in our educational institutions today.
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  2. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    how many blacks were on Mayberry?
  3. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    No @clembo , it’s not.

    Half the nation knows socialism to not be what they want, and much of the other half is undecided.

    We’re simply trying to open the eyes of the undecided to the fact that what Sanders, Cortez, and the rest of the hard left presses for it is not some palatable, softened version.

    Every little step in the wrong direction eventually turns into a big step in the wrong direction, and The People need to be educated about it, so that they recognize the danger of what they contemplate.
  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

  5. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I hate to even dignify your divisive question with a reply but, yes there were.

    I see you chose your target carefully, but regardless of the target, it is your intent that is despicable. I could just as inflammatorily ask how many whites were on The Cosby Show.

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  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    "From a Mayberry fan site, here are a bunch of episodes with black extras in them…"

  7. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    You should dig deeper than you did FD, the link is not to a Mayberry fan site. It is a site which specializes in entertainment of all kinds.
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  8. yakpoo

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    ...chucklehead. :)
  9. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Nope. It's a scary word and marxism is even scarier.

    Most folks that toss it about don't even know what it is.
  10. yakpoo

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    I know what Marxism is...and I certainly recognize it when I see it...

  11. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Since I was a Respondent on the pages skipped, and the ones you did not, what may be categorized by you, as insults by me, are not. They are posts of disdain and disgust and disrespect for Little Joe, an individual that continuously, via his posts, practices with glee a hateful Ideology of Division. He does so, knowing full well what he is doing, and laughs at you and any other member that replies to him in a manner that the person thinks is an engagement of intelligent meaningful conversation. It isn't. All Little Joe is doing is dividing you and others, by responding to you in a manner that you INTERPRET as a respectful reply, but if you read his replies, they are examples of innuendo and derision and discourtesy.

    His humblebrag name dropping and phony "I am one of you guys" life experience stories are designed to elicit just what he acceptance of him as a fine upstanding get along with everybody all around good guy, with a little bit of a different thought about our Federal Republic.

    No. He relays your responses to his his coffee house upper echelon (they think) of society as proof of the stupidity of all that don't accept his hateful Ideology. He is condescending by nature and Ideology, with a very misguided lack of appreciation for his fellow Citizens. The most egregious manner he exhibits, is his race baiting of all of the members, and he is the very definition of a racist.

    As to your unique perspective, it isn't. It is a description of 35%....give or take....of your fellow citizens, REGARDLESS OF RACE COLOR, CREED, EDUCATION LEVEL OR PHYSICAL LOCATION WITHIN THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC.

    As to tolerance, none is due when it is repeatedly ignored and rejected by a hateful racist, that practices an Ideology of Division.

    Ask your self, how many times have you and other members been tolerant and courteous to Little Joe and the infantile FD fellow? I certainly tried. It earned me hate from both, because when presented with facts not based on a political party, they don't want to engage. The same has occurred to every member that I read that replied to either of them, only to be thwarted by more hate and both of them doubling down and calling you idiots.

    Not that it matters at all, but I don't care if you think I am insulting them, and that somehow you are implying a moral high ground of your responses. These 2 members are dangerous. Very dangerous. I know who Little Joe is.

    You may continue to offer your unique perspectives, in some belief that it matters to these two clowns. It does not.
  12. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I think you can relax. We know all too well that our opinions / beliefs matter not to either JN or FD.

    I consider one a bona fide liberal lemming, and not dangerous because he acts so much the fool that no one takes him seriously.

    The other seems smart enough but delivers misguided positions with arrogant presentation. He's more dangerous to left-leaning centrists who want to believe what he peddles.
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  13. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am not in need of your condescension or coaching as to my demeanor.

    When you address my position as a need to relax, you are intimating that my descriptions of, and disdain for, these 2 members are a blameworthy diatribe. That is the exact type of Ideology of Division that these 2 individuals hope to instigate.

    Yes, they are dangerous, to any citizen of a Federal Republic. You may countenance outward race baiting and ignorant racism by implication. I do not and will not. It has nothing to do with left leaning centrism or misguided positions or arrogant presentation or being a liberal lemming.

    None of those "excuses"...because that is what they are, excuses for non-confrontation of an unjustifiable hateful Ideology of Division...that dismiss the direct confrontation and disgust and ridicule and recognition of the Ideology as dangerous to any person in a Federal Republic, is a failure of self.

    I am not in need of acceptance of my posts or attention of same by anyone.
    I recognize you mean well and mean no disrespect. We have different life experiences. Very different, and our opinions are a result of that difference, including what is within our personal tolerance level, will vary accordingly.

    These 2 members are Bigots and deserve public recognition that they are Bigots.
  14. yakpoo

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    I agree with everything you say, but as my Dad used to say..."Vulgarity is the sign of a weak mind". At least that's the perception of others. I find these people just as dangerous as you do and call them out when they espouse policies that harm innocent people. It's so much more fulfilling when FD has to check a dictionary. :cool: At least he's learning "something". FD probably thinks an "espouse" is someone's wife he meets online. ;)
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  15. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Who says FD's learned anything, except maybe that his beliefs are a lost cause.

    His every reply seems unrelated to the previous . . . constantly darting around, abandoning old lines of reasoning and trying new ones.
  16. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    I believe that may have been the most eloquent dressing down that I ever took. And no, I was certainly not singling you out when I said that I skipped the pages of one upsmanship and insults…. Rather, after posting here as long as I have, I know that the original message tends to disappear after the first page.

    I am a happy and mildly successful Christian man and long ago made a personal decision to not force my beliefs or lifestyle on others. After all, those that stand against me have a lifetime of negative influence and programming to make them view this world from a sour viewpoint. I am not going to influence anyone’s perspective on a message board….. However, if someone looks at me and somewhere down the road thinks to themselves that they might like a taste of the joy that fellow has in his life… Well then maybe something good will come of it down the road. My apologies if you felt personally slighted by my post.
  17. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    I am with you here Randy. I have skipped much of this thread exactly because of the one-upmanship and one-line insults. They are boring mostly because they aren't very clever. I like a good zinger but none of these guys are capable of that kind of witty retort as far as I can see.

    I have no idea who you are addressing here or what for that matter. I started this thread as a kind of hypothesis for determining the political divisions we see in mostly older adults. I don't know if the hypothesis is true or not but it seemed plausible. I was looking for people to post evidence that might refute the idea but no one here is interested in that kind of intellectual exercise or possibly even capable. Oh well.

    TC is is right that I don't value most of their opinions. I see many of those opinions tainted with extreme partisanship and very little substance. This is more of an opinion forum. Once you have read enough of other people's opinions, you get a pretty good sense of who they are. No point in wondering what they might think on any topic in most cases. Why get all that invested.
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  18. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I did not interpret a personal slight, at all.

    A dressing down was not my purpose or agenda. Rather, your post afforded me the opportunity to emphasize the danger of grouping opposing responses as a general failure of courtesy, and not addressing the foundation of the responses.....the hateful utterance of an Ideology of Division that uses race baiting and racism as a tool to persuade, and does so to elicit a sympathetic response from the person you are: A Christian and self-made contributor to a Federal Republic, and comfortable that you have lived a goal of improving your understanding of Freedom, and a belief that this will possibly be reflected onto those that would criticize your values.

    No. There will never be a successful transfer of your values onto individuals that practice a hateful Ideology of Division.
    Little Joe and his "familiar/follower" make no apology for the dangerous concepts they offer for consideration by well meaning People, while pursuing their stated purpose: Defeat of the Idea AND Ideal of a Federal Republic.

    They do so, while foisting onto the shoulders of others, the moral and economic and social collapse RESPONSIBILTY of the Ideal of a Federal Republic, and then, in a misleading support of the righteousness of a hateful ideology of Division, quote the words of Pol Pot, Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Mao, Kim(s), Castro and Ho: "SEE, WE TOLD YOU SO".
  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    I am quoting this post as a text book example of the dangerous hateful Ideology of Division that this member constantly and continuously and unabashedly employs to garner acceptance of same by using the very tools I described....divide and conquer and do so by implying an "acceptance" of his racist race baiting tactics by other members, with "friendly" overture: "....see buddy, I agree with you and we are the same, and everybody else is stupid and non-intellectual and not capable of accepting "our" hateful Ideology, and "our" political division hypothesis, and "we" don't have to defend ourselves, because they are all ignorant.....".

    Do other members not see this tactic? This is the THIRD time he has offered friendly agreements of position, to Three separate members, that seemingly offered a fig of reasonable commentary of his nonsense, via chiding other members that were vehement in their opposition of his ideology.
  20. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    Fifty percent of people won’t vote, and fifty percent don’t read newspapers. I hope it’s the same fifty percent.

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