The other side of New Orleans

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, Nov 19, 2005.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    My nephew was working for an insurance company in and around N.O. a few weeks ago wrapping casinos and hotels in plastic to prevent further damage. One night after working all day, he and his co-workers went into N.O. to get a drink at one of the few re-opened bars in town. They walked up to the door and the guy outside the bar head butted my nephew without warning and knocked him out. When he got up, several policeman had shown up and he told them what had just happened and that he want to press assault charges. They told him that he didn't want to and to move on. My nephew insisted that he had the right to press charges again so they arrested him for drunken disorderly conduct. He hadn't even set foot in the bar.

    While at the station, they were questioning him about why he was down here in the first place. During the interrogation, his co-works tried to call his cell phone and the police told him to turn it off and then realized that it was a camera phone. They began to search through his pictures for whatever when my nephew said that he thought they can't search his private property without a lawyer. They said that they would show him what they couldn't do. Seven policemen took him out back stripped him to his underwear beat him and shot him point blank in the side with a rubber bullet. The whole time saying that nobody needed his northern ass down there anyway.

    When they were done, they took him back inside bleeding and disoriented and threw him in a dog cage surrounded by about eight other similarly abused and shot men and left him so they could go back out on the streets. After a while another policeman that wasn't involved in this came by and asked him what had happened. He told him that he had been taken out back beaten and shot by seven policeman. This guy let him out and told him to go to the hospital. He went immediately to the nearest hospital and asked for a toxicology test to prove that he hadn't been drinking. When the tests came back, they told him that his blood work looked like he had experienced a heart attack due to the severity of his beating.

    This was one week before the N.O. police were caught on tape beating an elderly retired teacher and assaulting the news crew for filming it. It wasn't racial as you might suspect but something more like regionalism. They plain don't like northerners down there. My opinion of N.O. is changed drastically since I learned of the police tactics and northern resentment alive and well down there. As far as I'm concerned, the only people worth saving have already left...Now all we have to do is re-flood the place and flush! Problem solved.
     
  2. Midas

    Midas New Member

    According to the latest news, leading civil enigneers were questioned as to what and how high to make the levees and many are in agreement...

    EVEN if you build the levees 30 feet high and spend all of the billions and billions of dollars to rebuild this city, in LESS than 90 years from present, the city of New Orleans will continue to sink to a level of 15 to 19 feet BELOW sea level.

    Face it...would you build in a city that is sinking and BELOW sea level? As for the city of New Orleans police department, it is another sympton of the most corrupt city in our country. It's why it is called the "Big Easy". That donesn't make their actions right by any means, but when most of the city politicians and police are "stuck on stupid", after reading your post...all you can do is shake your head.

    The place was already weird enough BEFORE Katrina hit. I can't imagine it now.
     
  3. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато

    Even in Lousiana they looked down on NO. It is the bottom of the toilet bowl called Louisiana. If I never see that US state again I am happy. It was the worst place in the USA I have ever been.
     
  4. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато

    They should call it the "Big Sleazy" :p
     
  5. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I feel for him, police brutality ought to be dealt with in a harsh manner and these "cops" need to do time in prison (I hear that prison is not very nice for cops). New Orleans has always been known for scumbag cops though. Stay clear of that sewer.
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    My nephew is O.K. He is about 6'-7" and looks like a German soldier. He was a little naive when he went there but I think he has learned a few quick lessons in southern hospitality. He is coming here for Thanksgiving and I’ll get a better chance to hear his side of the story. In the meantime, no one had better ask me for anything for Katrina Relief for a while. I also heard that the F.B.I. was looking into the matter.
     
  7. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    Whoooo there people, are you the same ones that have said don't jump to conclusions and called Bush a lier for telling stories?

    Well, I would just like to remind all of you that you have heard only one side of the story, and that by someone who is less than impartial. Whild it may have happened, there are things that just don't make any sense with the story as related by Moen. Don't you think there would have been something on the news wire about "police brutality" if it had happened as reported. Or maybe it hasn't had time to be leaked to the press. What were all his buddies doing while this was going on? etc. etc.

    New Orleans has always been a party town, and I have enjoyed the times I've been there. I don't go around looking for trouble and stay out of places that I'm not wanted. Have you stopped to think that "color" may have been part of this event. There are bars in N.O. that if your not the "right" color, you stay out of if your half way smart. Not to say this was the cause, but only that it could have been a lot of things that caused it to have happened. Give it time to be resolved, and then rant and rave if you want to.
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    N.O. police have been the most corrupt force in America for years. Look it up.
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    The south is filled with the greatest people that I have ever met in the USA and that is coming from someone born and raised in Brooklyn, NY. and who spent many years living in the wonderful place called Manhattan. With that said I must add that the democrat control New Orleans has been known to be a cesspool of corruption from the mayor to the police. I would figure that what Moen said happens there on a regular basis for the cops most likely get money from those bars as pay out. This is only the tip of that sewer mound for as was stated by many, Billions of dollars that was given to that city and state to upkeep there various systems of protection against water surges and rain run off has been going into democrat machinary pockets.
    Now it may seem that I am slamming the democrat party with this but basically this is what happens when people only vote one party decade in and decade out no matter what the scandal which then allows that party to think that it owns the city and not representives of it.

    I also fault Bush for throwing tens of billions of dollars at this cesspool. Most likely as a response to the false FEMA leftwing media charges and the allegations that he and FEMA were racist. Funny but Florida when it gets FEMA help has most of that help going to the hard working Latin Americans. Just look at the demograhics.
     
  10. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    The reason why the police of New Orleans are so lousy is because of the Democrat party that runs that city like a mafia cash cow. I do not consider the majority of New Orleans police as police just as most democrats should not consider the democrat party machine down there as "true democrats".

    That mayor should have been shown for what he was by the media but I guess that would go against the story line that was being developed to attack Bush.
     
  11. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    One of my favorite pictures which shows just how much Texas and Louisiana differ in their views of law enforcement and "umm socially acceptable behavior." What happened to your nephew wouldn't have happened in Texas because the civil unrest which obviously added to the stress of the New Orleans Police would have been "curtailed" at the source by various Neighborhood Watch groups just across the border in Texas.

    Bone
     
  12. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато

    And if you doubt the above, I lived in Houston in 1994 when we had a record flood. Everybody was armed and willing to shoot if you wanted to loot. Nobody save a copperhead snake swimming out of the San Jac in our neighbourhood ended up getting "pumped" though. Texas has a shoot to kill on the spot law dating from the Republic days.
     
  13. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    No looting where I live. We have guns and the right to use them under Florida law plus we are a working conservative area. By the way, we do not have any cop issues either. They are pretty cool with protecting our schools with having officers patrol since they found records of southwest Florida school plans in Iraq in a terrorist cell with detail plans for murder.
     
  14. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I will not defend those bozos in N.O.,but to put their stuff on the level of Bush's Michael Brown treasonous appointment is just wrong.
     
  15. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Hey Andy, you'll find that all of your arguements will tend to lose credibility when the only reason you can find for any problem under the sun is the democratic party. You just become a broken record for the rightwing nut-jobs and we've all heard it before.
     
  16. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    sorry your thread got hijacked too moen. sorry to hear about your nephew.

    its a shame more cant be done about those officers. im sure everyone down there have been through more than enough but that still doesnt warant that kind of action.
     
  17. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Most of the state and local officials were "stuck on stupid" well before Katrina hit and nothing has changed since. I would bet that most of the remaining "law enforement" have their own deals with the local businesses that are paying for "protection".

    And people want to rebuild this "sinking bathtub of a city".
     
  18. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I think we have some common ground here. We probably should not rebuild it.
     
  19. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    anyone see the video on the internet of the 2 police women that were looting the kmant(or wallmart or target im not sure what store it was.)and the camera crew caught them on tape .classic.
     
  20. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

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