The Quentin Factor

Moen is right. Lets listen to all of the leftwing, pot smoking, unborn baby hating, child porn loving, bifriendly limpwrist college professors who saw GI Jane and consider themselves experts on the matter. What does a vet know anyway if he or she was stupid enough to fight for the American way of life in the first place.

 

* If I throw a stick, will you leave?

 

Ok, I'm pretty sure none of us were members of the highschool debating team, but I really don't believe that we should be following Saturday Night Live 1975 rules.

Dan Akroyd delivers his take on the news story, Jane Curtin gives her counter-point, then Dan in his famous line starts his counter-counter point with

You know, it was funny then, but not so much on this forum.

 

Isn't chicken little the one who said the sky is falling?
As for the military and me I almost entered the USMC after HS. A friend went ahead and did it, I went to college. He ended up in the first gulf war and you guessed it, he regretted it.
Anyway have you ever been shot at while trying to shoot them. It is not like the movies.

 

Proud to be an American

I would not encourage any child or grandchild of mine to lay his life down for a cause that brings no honor to our great nation. However when you swear to follow of the orders of the officers above you, that includes the President of the United States, then that is what you do. Cowards do not need to go to war.
I don't believe this war was necessary. I believe it was political and it has stained our reputation as a nation that comes to the aid of victims of war rather then a nation that now starts wars. 9-11 was not because of Sadam. Yet our leaders want to use that to justify sticking our noises into an other countries affairs. Going to a country that does not understand or even like our way of life or beliefs is a mistake of epic proportions. We are asking to be stabbed in the back no matter what we think we've done for them. You'd think we would have learned for our mistake with Vietnam. :headbang:

 

Obviously you didn't read the 9/11 bipartisan commission report...

Forget the facts from this report and let's think rationally...where should the front lines of this war against islamic terrorism be fought?

I sleep better knowing that our troops and bombers are 10 minutes from the cancer of the world instead of 10 days. After all, our troops were not in Iraq and Afghanistan before 9/11 and the "religion of peace" still attacked us didn't they??

If you think that the "religion of peace" is simply going to go away and not attack us infidels anymore, you are sadly mistaken. This war is going to be long and hard. Many Americans have a crazy notion that the war should last no longer than their PlayStation 2 video game, or episode of CSI.

What we need to do is fight harder and if that means carpet bombing the crap out of our enemy, let the bombs fall. After all...it is the only measure the "religion of peace" understands. You just can't fight nice against these animals. You need to hit them with everything you got and beat them into submission.

 

So you don't think it's like the movies, do you? Well, lets see if this qualifies me to ask you if you occasionally "cluck" when talking:

U.S. Navy, sub duty in south pacific, WWII
Navy Cross with gold star.
Navy Legion of Merit
Purple Heart with gold star.
Oh yes, I almost forgot...prisoner of war in Jap PW camp.

Now lets see you flap your wings and make like what you are!

 

Old dan do I understand that you are saying that is YOUR record

 

He says a lot of things. I'd ask for the pictures.

 

Sorry Danr, I was thinking of someone else.
I'm one of those who crossed the border to Canada and didn't return untill the war was over and forgotten. I then attended college and met this old gal who I married so she would support me by teaching so I could sit on my ass and try and develop a personality all my own. I have a cousin who cant stay out of trouble when he is drinking, so ends up in some tight situations which most of us simply can't understand. Gosh, I though all people reguardless of where they lived liked us folks of different color. Guess not. Thinking of taking up cooking. Got some great recipes on black eyed peas and sweet potato pie. I'll make you some and send it if you will suppley me with your address.
Have a nice day partner.

 

What the hell did you do to get a Navy Cross while on submarine duty? Are not a lot of submariner medals given posthumously? Japanese POW?

Sheesh, there musy be some stories in between the lines of this stuff.

 

I do not think that any conflict is worth the death of a single child, and before any one jumps on me and calls me a pacifist or peace loving left wing whatever I have served my time been shot at & bombed by our cousin's over the water. War is evil **** and anyone who says its good or fun is bloody well insane, I have lost good friends not just to bullets but also the after effects of war. Yes war is sometimes neccisary but do not gloryfy it
Old Dan congrats on your Medals Mate :thumb:

De Orc :hammer: :mouth: (I love these smilies)

 

Some wars like the Falkland Islands conflict really had no basis to call for arms. That could have been worked out with many different type of solutions.

Other matters like an absolute evil that wants to destory all that it opposes can not be reason with as it releases its dogs of war upon you.
and that is when war is a necessary uglyness and not a choice, the decision was already made against us and we need to respond in kind.

 

I agree Andy the Falklands need not have occured, we allowed Argentina to Invade and then reacted :goof: I believe it was in the mid 60's when Prime Minister Harold Wilson very quietly dispatched the Fleet to the Falklands and stoped dead a planed invasion, without a shot been fired.
If we had increased the number of troops on the Island and included some Air defence they might well have pulled back again.

De Orc :bow: :secret: :computer: (These are great LOL)

 

Well I don't have a kid, but I don't like the loaded question posted in the beginning. If my child declared that he wanted to go fight in the middle east, that is his sole decision not mine. No one can give up their children to war, only the children can.

 

Again I would have to agree with Zaneman on a couple of points I do not disagree with anyones choice to fight for there country and yes the question is a bit missleading as I seriously doubt that anyone here would go 'Oh heres my kid kill him/her in the name of whatever'

De Orc :hatch: :eat:

 

ok, let me restate for your consideration. Your son or daughter is 17 years old, the legal age for enlistment in the U.S. with a parent or guardians approval. You are asked to sign their application (waiver)..

On the other hand, I thought it would make a more relevent point than asking if you could push a button .... (no offense intended to original poster)

 

Thank you DeOrc it's something I usually don't even think about. As for war, these are my thoughts:
War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left.

In answer to quick dog's question, the cross w/star came for events which took place after the sinking of the boat and being taken prisoner.

This ends the conversation on this subject as I would just as well not discuss it any further. I hope you understand.

 

'War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left.' :thumb: I like it LOL

De Orc :computer:

 

Seems like we have a hero on our boards here.
Actually I think we have a number of them.
and I think that is better experience then any debating team or college classroom.