The Quentin Factor

Discussion in 'Politics' started by glaciermi, Nov 18, 2005.

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Would you give up your child or grandchild for the war in the middle east?

Poll closed Dec 18, 2005.
  1. Yes, the cause is important, and is worth the sacrifice

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  2. No, the sacrifice is too great, and cause too uncertain

    13 vote(s)
    72.2%
  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Seems like your about as gullible as they come Andy my boy. In a previous post, Old Dung wrote the following:

    "There are a lot of things in this old world that you haven’t seen ajm, and I can only relate what I have seen and lived to tell about. Turkish Muslim solders in WWII who were offered, and accepted “spam” at a meal. They later found out that “spam” was actually a form of “ham” (pig) and they came looking for our cooks. It ended with all of the Turks being shot or wounded and taken back to their devisions. I personally have already killed my share of Muslims and would not hesitate to do it again if the need arises. Have you ever seen captured Italian solders being sent running between the two lines of Turkish Muslims. Somewhere along the way some one of them swings a knife and beheads the runner. They have placed bets on how many steps they will take with out a head. Real nice people and not to be trusted in any thing of honor that I know of."

    So Old Dung is saying that he served in Europe where he killed Muslims (for the Navy?), the Pacific on submarine, and was a Japanese POW. We were only involved in the war for about four years and he managed to be everywhere in multiple branchs of the military. Anyone else starting to see some lies unfolding. Don't waste you admiration on a phony. This country has plenty of real heros that deserve your respect.
     
  2. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    Special Forces?
     
  3. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Sounds like communism to me. :rolleyes: When those commies get you under their :thumb:, you do what ever they tell you.Here's a history lesson about
    Emma Goldman: In the early days Goldman supported the idea of propaganda by deed. In 1892, together with Alexander Berkman she planned the assassination of Henry Clay Finch, who has suppressed strikes in the Homestead Pennsylvania factory with armed guards. She even tried unsuccessfully to work as a prostitute to raise money for the gun. They believed that by killing a tyrant, a representative of a cruel system, the consciousness of the people would be aroused. This didn't happen.
    Berkman only managed to injure Finch and was sentenced to 22 years in prison. Goldman tried to explain and justify the attempted assassination insisting that true morality deals with the motives not the consequences. Her time in post-revolutionary Russian meant that she re-assessed this belief that the end justifies the means.
    She was imprisoned a second time for distributing birth control literature , but her longest sentence resulted from her involvement in setting up 'No Conscription' leagues and organising rallies against the first world war. Goldman and Berkman were arrested in 1917 for conspiring to obstruct the draft and given two years. Afterwards they were stripped of their citizenship and deported along with other undesirable 'Reds' to Russia. J. Edgar Hoover, who directed her deportation hearing called her one of the most dangerous women in America.

    Here's a link to the rest of this article: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2159/redemm.html

    Interesting...

    Regards,
    CraigG
     
  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Before the Seals there were U.S. Navy Frogmen. I'd lay money on it, he's (Old Dan) mentioned a few key hints which I caught.

    Bonedigger
     
  5. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    You'r absolutely right Moen and groan, we have your friend Kerry with three (3) purple hearts. Count them, it's three! And he ran for president and you probably voted for him, if you had your citizenship paper by then.
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    A real Vet would respect another Vet not berate him. You are a liar!
     
  7. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Kerry

    Kerry got those purple hearts by injuring himself. Not because he's a clumsy
    buffoon(he is, by the way :D ), he did it on purpose. Medical War records prove that the injuries he had were so minor they could have been treated with Band-Aids. He is such a :good: and he always looks like :rolling:.

    Regards,
    CraigG
     
  8. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    How would you know? Being a member of the Iranian army don't count as military duty.
     
  9. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Gasp :eek: Moen, are you really? :D I love using these emoticons. :D

    Regards,
    CraigG
     
  10. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I wouldn't know, but I'm guessing it does in Iran.
     
  11. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Makes sense to me! :D :D :D

    Regards,
    CraigG
     
  12. Midas

    Midas New Member

    I would love to see Meon call Old Dan a lair face to face. Meon fights like his islamic buddies which is fire a few mortars and then hide behind our Constitution or some "religion of peace" mosque. Totally gutless...no spine, no backbone!

    Most liberals resort to name calling when they can't support their argument with logic, rational, and facts. Anyway, if Old Dan and Meon ever got in each other's face, I bet Meon would go down and squeal like a pig for his mommy.

    After all, liberals like to be taken care of. They are the first to protest ANY war and they are the first to run to Canada. They claim to support our troops while their actions prove otherwise. They scream "it's a free country" but crap on the soldiers that keep them free. They don't realize the best way to defeat our enemy (as per Patton) is to shoot the enemy in the belly and make him die for his country (or allah).

    It's easy to be a liberal like Meon. No hard decisions to make, just take from people that work and give to people that stay home on welfare. If there is any problem, don't worry, the government can fix it because people like Meon are smarter than anybody else. How would Meon deal with our enemies? Well, let's look the other way because we need to understand each other and respect their feelings. There is no need for war because we should hold hands and teach the world to sing.

    Fight? Never!! If we reach out to these people, then our enemies wouldn't hate us. If we fight, we need to ask the rest of the world for permission because the new world order is one big happy family isn't it Meon??

    Again, it is easy for many people like Meon to be gutless liberals because they always leave the fighting to somebody else (those mean spirited conservatves) and given they have enough of everybody else's money, they can solve the world's problems.
     
  13. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    I was thinking UDT, same thing. My dive partner has been all over the world doing that sort of stuff.
     
  14. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Hey if old dan did that stuff all I can say is thanks!
    As for his attitude now he is a bit like Archie Bunker.
     
  15. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Yeppers, a fellows got to have gravel in his craw for that kind of duty...
     
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Don't bet your boyfriends viagra money on that Midas. I'm 6'-3' 245 lbs. and no one that really knows me would say I'm fat at 245. Never started a fight in my life and never backed down from one either.

    I figured out a long time ago that the only people that like fighting are bullies and cowards that pick on those that are weaker. I'm not the type of person that you'd chose to run into in a dark alley. Then again, I'm sure you and your boyfriend would get off just watching a fight.

    You are exactly what I dislike about military folk. Always looking for that next war. Peace isn't good enough for you. You are no different than the Muslims you hate. I just glad that I understand both of you.
     
  17. Midas

    Midas New Member

    6' 3", 245...blah, blah, blah...

    I could care less how tall or how much you weigh. I judge a man on character and how much "back bone" they have. From what I see as I read your posts, there isn't enough calcium and vitamin D to fix yours.
     
  18. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    WoW! I didn't know that they stacked sh¥t that high!
     
  19. rick

    rick New Member

    Midas:

    How can you sit there and speak out of pure emotional hatred that boils down to racism and name calling (all of which is hiding behind some supposed 'nationalistic pride') and then turn around and tell ANYONE they lack the ability to argue with logic or rational thought?

    You're so busy trying to judge a man on what you decide is his character and blah blah 'back bone' - maybe you should spend less time judging others. It tends to be a pointless preoccupation.
     
  20. rick

    rick New Member


    now THAT was funny.
     

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