There May Be Something Wrong With You

If you believe this guy is a hero:



.... and this guy is a villain:



... there may be something very, very, very wrong with you. Just sayin'.

 

I'd say there's something wrong if you think either of them is a hero for their actions.

 

See, I don't get that. Has chivalry in the 21st century become standing on the sidelines with your phone filming an attack on innocent people?

 

I'd say being the victim - surrendering oneself to the progressive cause - has become chivalrous in the minds of liberals . . . hop to it, GeeDubbya.

 

So it was Neely attacking people that justified his death? Would you feel different if Neely hadn't attacked anyone?

 

If I am in a confined subway car and your wife is aboard and she is being threatened by a stoned and very unhinged person, I will rise up and do what I can to restrain them. Be damned the consequences. Right is right and men are inherently equipped to defend those that cannot defend themselves. Simple natural law that cannot be undone no matter what popular culture may say...... Carry it out to its logical conclusion the other way. Nobody rises up to defend the occupants of the train car and an innocent old woman or child is harmed... Is that the better outcome?

 

Neely hadn't touched anyone. Penny killed him. I don’t call that a hero.

 

A man holding a knife at my kids necks hasn't killed anybody.... I am still going to shoot him dead.

 

You know that's not what happened.

 

But the point remains. The man was unhinged and verbally threatening innocent people. That is an undisputed fact. I cannot walk into a bank and state that I am here to rob you without expecting the people in the bank to do anything other than take me at my word and react to protect themselves.

 

What specific threats did Neely make? Did said threats deserve death?

 

I wasn’t there. I only know the witnesses in the courtroom said they were threatened. And it wasn’t as if Penny was looking for a victim to murder. Believe me. The military trains far more efficient ways to kill. He was using restraint. I’m sorry that Neely’s system was too wracked from ingested drugs to withstand being restrained. Yeah, Mr. Penny represents everything we Americans are sick and tired of. He is an American hero.

 

Well, Neely didn't actually do anything. The only violent one was Penny. If you're so opposed to abstracted and hypothetical violence, I'd be surprised if you're not on board with Mangione as well. Thompson had the blood of many on his hands. Just as tangibly if not more so than Neely did.

Again, for the record, I don't think either one is a "hero."

 

Shooting a man in the back over principal is the very definition of cowardice. Protecting innocent people from harm is the very definition of chivalry.

 

I dunno. Sounds like Penny grabbed Neely from behind, and in your bank robbery scenario I bet you'd have no problem shooting from behind if he was facing the counter.

 

He didn't commit both assault and criminal threatening on the train?

 

In the case of this worthless Mangione piece of -edited-, he purposely meant to kill. Too bad Penny wasn’t there to stop him.

 

Not according to witnesses, and certainly not convicted of (Penny robbed him of that chance)

 

I just think it's a tragedy, and vigilante homicide shouldnt be celebrated. Is that so radical?

 

But would you feel the same if your wife or mother had been on that train car?