He is gone now so it realy makes no difference if he was or was not and he woudnt be the 1st nor the last to claim it happend
Comment typical of the Obama worshippers we have over here...he has resigned now so let's just forget the whole thing...let Obama have a "my bad" moment but heaven forbid we should hold it against him...and it's really no indication of Obama's judgement or choice of inner circle advisors....others have messed up so we really can't hold Obama accountable. Really?
David can you actualy read? or do you just make things up as you go along? Were exactly did I say that President Obama shoudnt be held accountable for things he does wrong?? I have also commented in other threads that the guy shoudnt have been picked but Nooooo you in your superior wisdom have decided that I actualy wrote something else, even though my words are there for all to see. And were do you get this Obama worship from? You realy are deluded LOL even when people agree with you, you say they are saying something else. I have made it quite plain on a number of occasions that I personaly woudnt have voted for President Obama, that I do not like him but unlike you I do believe in fair play. I am also not paranoid about having a President in Office who surrounds himself with his supporters in exactly the same manner every other president for the past 100+ years has done but you are scared out of your wits!! Why exactly is this David? Why all the hatred David it is as if he is a personal affront to you! You make blanket statements about the man all the time yet chide anyone else who makes such a statement? It cant just be because he is a Democrat you have had those before, I wonder what the real reason is?
We are guilty of smearing Van Jones. We used HIS words, HIS video and HIS statements........How can you more taint an argument? How dare you quote an individual and in their own words debate them? Someone ( who is now president ) stated , dont judge me, judge the people I associate with...... Wow I see he still has apologists. And supporters. Pretty telling isn't it?
Right here we go to both of you show me a single post were I have Condonde or agreed with what jones believes in, were I have been a apologist for him, come on now you both take pleasure in your attacks now back up your words!
It's this post right here! You say "he's gone" so it doesn't matter anymore. Well, it does matter. It goes right back to what conservatives have been "paranoid" about: What kind of judgement does this Prez really have? What kind of people will he surround himself with and therefore subject our country to? And by stating "he wouldn't be the 1st nor last" seems to be quite apologetic on behalf of Obama and his questionable choices and scary power plays. Thsi question has been posed to (but never answered by) Obama supporters: Honestly, is the Obama he have the Obama you thought you were voting for?
That is stating two simple facts 1 he is gone and is now a nobody! 2 He realy is not the 1st person to claim he was smeared nor will he be the last. Would you like to disprove those? Shall we talk about Presidential Judgment? do you realy want to do that LOL Ok here is a list of names now tell me what they have in common Elliott Abrams, Alan D. Fiers, Richard R. Miller, Clair George, Thomas G. Clineswas, Carl R. Channel, John Poindexter, Oliver North, James Watt, Philip Winn , Thomas Demery,Deborah Gore Dean, Joseph A. Strauss, Michael Deaver, Rita Lavelle Do you want to talk about who hired them and who pardond some of them? and why they were scare choices for a political leader to make! Is or has any single President actualy been the person you thought you were voting for? I doubt it very much. And by stating "he wouldn't be the 1st nor last" seems to be quite apologetic on behalf of Obama and his questionable choices and scary power plays. Now did you happen to see a single mention of President Obama in my statement?? I dont think so yet here are you saying I apologised for him, get real LOL And again talking of Mr Jones I believe he was called wrongly a convicted fellon yet President Bush was convicted of Drink Driving but I did not hear anyone decrying his right to a job LOL You realy are clutching at straws David
Van Jones is a self-proclaimed COMMUNIST, ANARCHIST, and BLACK NATIONALIST while he was a law student at Yale Law School. This is the same school that is afraid to publish cartoons about Islam's mohammad in a book about editorial cartoons titled,"The Cartoons That Shook the World" by Brandeis University professor Jytte Klausen. Van Jones spoke about his time in jail (he was arrested at a protest), Jones said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was like, 'This is what I need to be a part of,'" he said in a 2005 interview with the East Bay Express. Jones told the newspaper he stayed in San Francisco, and for the next 10 years worked with a lot of the people he met in jail. Months after the King verdict came down, Jones said, "I was a communist." In the late 1990s, Van Jones was involved in Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a multi-racial activist collective with Marxist and Communist influences. Jones even associated with a group that looked to Mao Zedong as an inspiration. If you can find a quote from Jones saying he is no longer a communist, anarchist, or black nationalist, oh please enlighten us. Since the B.O.'s “czars” do not go through congressional confirmation, and are therefore not scrutinized or vetted, many Americans have no idea who they are...yet, they are strong advisors to the President. Also, Van Jones signed a petition in 2004 calling for an investigation into 9/11 that it was the U.S. government's fault, not muslim animals. Jones was a signatory on a 2004 statement calling on then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests "people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war." Jones has consistently leaned on racially charged language, pointing the finger at "white polluters and the white environmentalists" for "steering poison" to minority communities, as he makes the case for lifting up low-income and minority communities with better environmental policy. His words...His actions...but go ahead and defend this leftist
Yet again another and to use his own terminology a Village idiot who can not read!!! show me were I defend him? Try reading my past posts on the man. Previously posted but unread by you obviously Jack has named 1 who I agree is on the scary side and I believe you named another who has communist leanings in the past. Both of those I can agree should be viewed with sceptizism at the very least. Yes he was arrested but never convicted lets not forget that bit LOL Oh sorry there I go again standing up for him but I thought Americans believed in the Truth Now as I have stated President Bush was convicted of Drink driving and also had a advisor who had been convicted of lying to Congress back in 1991 now my facts can be proven yours unfortunatly do not stand up to scrutiny Now for some more of your Bull Since the B.O.'s “czars” do not go through congressional confirmation, and are therefore not scrutinized or vetted, many Americans have no idea who they are...yet, they are strong advisors to the President Try reading some of my past posts on them a number have been confirmed by Congress also a number have due to there past employment been vetted to the highest possible standards by both goverment deptments and the Millitery, now do you want to tell me if all of President Bush's were confirmed??