The tenth year of this never-ending war, billions of dollars, thousands of lives, no exit strategy, and no end in sight. Is our military so pathetic that we can’t beat a rag-tag group of whacko’s and can’t even hunt down one guy? What are we paying for if our military can’t even accomplish one mission in 10 years? Would the military apologists now insert their excuses.
Our military is not pathetic and you are way oversimplifying the Afghan situation. We can beat any country in a war if we take the gloves off. However, that would involve basically considering every Afghan a combatant despite their civilian status. Our military knows which people are the enemy, but it is a guerilla war in one of the harshest terrains on the planet. In addition, the Afghan civilians are forced to provide the Taliban whacko's with information about US force movements or face death. Here are our choices as I see it. 1) Follow the current strategy of hunting down a group of guerilla warriors whose forces are constantly replenished by our supposed ally Pakistan and fight a 25+ year war. This results in very little collateral damage and is the polictically correct way to fight the war. 2) Kill everyone in sight and drive the Taliban into Pakistan. This would result in the death of millions of innocent Afghans and the world community would turn on us as well as provide fuel to the already declared jihad by the muslim extremists. And once we left, the Taliban that fled to Pakistan, would simply return to take over the country again. This is a country that the Soviet army couldn't beat in the 80's and they were not at all concerned with preventing collateral damage. I understand your frustration with the war. And if you think we should withdrawl because the war is unwinnable, that opinion holds merit. However, blaming our military for the situation is absurd.
This war ceased to be about beating "a rag-tag group of whacko’s" long ago. Apparently, Bush and Obama have one thing in common...they think they can bring stability and freedom to a 'country' - and I couldn't use the term any more loosely - that has not had stability nor freedom in the lifetimes of any of the people who are currently alive there. We are building a nation. Not fighting an enemy. Fighting the enemy is secondary to building the nation. But, really that is only part of the story too. We have ulterior motives. The whole war keeps turning more and more into protecting an interest in the region (China, anyone? or how about Russia or India?). We want Afghanistan to be a new Korea. Of course we have to kill some more enemies now and again to make that happen but I have little doubt that if they just went along with the idea, we wouldn't be worried about them as enemies any more.
Blaming the military is absurd. The republicans aren't in the white house currently, so, at least they'd be able to defend the "most secure airspace in the country" and hopefully turn the thousands of Pentagon cameras back on again to actually see which cave dwelling acrobatic pilot flew what into what. Not the military's fault...just the criminal creeps that got us there in the first place, disabling them, or otherwise tying their hands behind their backs..
Thanks Sparky! Hey could we have another lesson in how metal is made and how that proves 911 wasn't the charade the masses believe it was?
Hey, tom, are those men in black (or is it white uniforms with nets) still after you? And how's the Libertarian ticket looking this year? You did claim to be a Libertarian, remember that one? I still laugh when I think about it!
Our military is very capable of eliminating the problem. Drop a few bombs over there and the country is gone. Problem is over. Right? Oh! I forgot, you have to do that politically correctly. Now there is the rub. It is not the military that cannot do its job, it is the politicals. If they could convince the rest of the world and/or all of the Afghans to act humanely, there would not be a problem. Alternatively, it is still the politicals (in our country, anyway) job to find the happy middle ground to attain the desired results. Still, I see no reason to blame the military.
Your responses to the 9/11 issue are straight from the truther handbook. When you encounter an issue like this where you are required to provide an original opinion, you are simply unable to do so. Stop trying to hijack the thread and give us your opinion about the topic at hand. BTW, stop being a clown!
So just kill the good with the bad, huh? While I am all for that, it isnt really a good idea for a civilized country to do so. Lehigh named the options, and Stujoe nailed the reason we are there. And maybe our history hid the fact that we were callus and killed everything in our path to be top dog. But I dont think so. Its called humanity. And though I may want all Afghans killed because I'm a bigot; you want them all dead to quench your thirst for destruction. I suppose there's a difference.
The truther handbook....which publishing was that? Proud to be called a truther. Thanks again Sparky. But I'll do what you tell me to do this time. The Afghan war is a no win scenario. The Russians couldn't do it and neither will we. The reasons we're told we're there are incomplete, at best. In a nutshell....protecting the poppy fields and controlling the export of the product, along with strategic presence is about all it amounts to. Another leftover mess from the prior administration from the right that they can blame on Obama...and people are stupid...they believe what they're spoon fed.
The military is doing the best they can with what they have to work with (at least at the actual combatant level...the much higher ups perhaps something else). I mean they're only following orders when they were able to defend only three sides of the terrain in the miraculous Tora Bora US guided "escape" of Osama Bin Bush. It's impossible terrain to impregnate as Russia eventually realized.
If 9/11 was an inside job, as tom claims, then wouldn't that mean bin Laden is off the hook? Tom, is bin Laden an innocent scape goat? How does your ilk view this?